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    25 GbE network card for PFsense 2.7

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    • Jakub_J
      Jakub_
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      Hello everyone !
      Please advise which 25 GbE network card to choose.
      I have bad experience with Broadcom, good with intel. Maybe someone can recommend any card that works well with PFsense 2.7
      Jakub

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      • AmodinA
        Amodin @Jakub_
        last edited by Amodin

        @Jakub_ said in 25 GbE network card for PFsense 2.7:

        Hello everyone !
        Please advise which 25 GbE network card to choose.
        I have bad experience with Broadcom, good with intel. Maybe someone can recommend any card that works well with PFsense 2.7
        Jakub

        I didn't think it supported anything higher than 10GbE? (I could be totally wrong on that, I swore I read it some place though)
        If it does, I would recommend any Intel chipset card, but I believe there is a hardware list showing what works.

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        • Jakub_J
          Jakub_ @Amodin
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          @Amodin
          According to the documentation 25 GbE is supported but my experience is negative hence the question.

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          • AmodinA
            Amodin @Jakub_
            last edited by Amodin

            @Jakub_

            Yeah I'm sure you are correct about that but surprises me that you had a bad Broadcom experience. I would personally stay away from any Realtek based chipset NIC and stick with anything Intel.

            Edit: I think the only 25GbE Intel cards are quad ports only, if that is of any concern, and I'm sure it won't be cheap, lol. Are you looking for an Ethernet card, or one to plug MiniGBic into?

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            • Jakub_J
              Jakub_ @Amodin
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              @Amodin Preferable SFP+ / SFP 28

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                There are a few reports of high througputs here with Mellanox NICs. Also using the Intel e800 series, ice(4) driver.

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                • AmodinA
                  Amodin @Jakub_
                  last edited by

                  @Jakub_ said in 25 GbE network card for PFsense 2.7:

                  @Amodin Preferable SFP+ / SFP 28

                  As was mentioned, I have heard good things about Mellanox, and if you are an avid Amazon shopper, it's on there as well - so far showing the only one with that much throughput on SFP. I haven't personally used the product, as I tend to stick with Intel-based, but I don't recall them having an affordable product for what you are referring to...

                  Now their i225-V chipsets I wouldn't touch with a 50ft pole....

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                  • Jakub_J
                    Jakub_ @stephenw10
                    last edited by Jakub_

                    Thanks guys,
                    So I can order two pieces (I need 4 interfaces)
                    Intel E810-XXVDA2 without worrying about compatibility issues ? Alternatively which Mellanox do you recommend ?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Check this thread: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182079/help-with-25g-speeds-on-ha-pfsense-routers-lacp-using-mellanox-connectx-5-nic

                      Though actually passing traffic at those speeds still surprises me.

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                        machbot @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 said in 25 GbE network card for PFsense 2.7:

                        Though actually passing traffic at those speeds still surprises me.

                        He is probably using 9000 MTU; you only need to process 350k packets per second to hit 25Gb/s at 9000 MTU.

                        I've ran some rudimentary test using iperf3 and only managed to reach 1.4M packet per second using 4 out of 6 cores of an i5 12500. 2 virtual functions from different connectx-4 lx physical functions was used as the NIC,

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                        • Jakub_J
                          Jakub_ @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10
                          Hi again guys !
                          Finally purchased four Mallonix MCX512A cards, PCIe3.0 x 8 ( R250 riser limit is two PCI 8x ).
                          I made some tests. R250 (with two MCX512) to R250 (with two MCX512).
                          1 to 1 25GbE :
                          pf25.jpg
                          and LAGG 3x 25GbE:
                          Zrzut ekranu 2023-11-30 162217.jpg
                          Enjoy :)
                          Jakub.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by stephenw10

                            Nice! What CPU is that using?

                            And is that with jumboframes?

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                            • Jakub_J
                              Jakub_ @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10
                              Intel(R) Xeon(R) E-2356G CPU @ 3.20GHz / 32GB RAM.
                              Yes, with jumbo frames.

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                              • planedropP
                                planedrop
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                                @Jakub_ are you seeing these kind of performance numbers real world too or just iperf?

                                I know slightly older thread, but was curious if anyone had really seen much more than 10 ish gigabit through pfSense. Been working on planning a new firewall build for myself as my Netgate 6100 just can't keep up with my 8 gigabit WAN (didn't expect it to) and been debating if I should aim for something with 25 gig adapters for "future proofing" but am not sure if it's remotely worth it. Current plan is a Xeon 2146NT since it has QAT built in which I do care about.

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                                • Jakub_J
                                  Jakub_ @planedrop
                                  last edited by

                                  @planedrop
                                  The solution has been deployed in production, but we still have not transferred all the data streams, so I can boast of much lower results, while the 25GbE cards are working stable.
                                  When I have an average load > 10GbE I will post.
                                  FW_speed.jpg

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                                  • Dobby_D
                                    Dobby_ @planedrop
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                                    @planedrop said in 25 GbE network card for PFsense 2.7:

                                    I know slightly older thread, but was curious if anyone had really seen much more than 10 ish gigabit through pfSense.

                                    Often users are installing router and/or firewalls internal of their networks
                                    so no WAN/LAN but more LA/LAN traffic may be here the factor for higher
                                    traffic. And by side this is a nearly ~400 € CPU with max. 5GHz 6C/12T
                                    and plenty of RAM for buffering.

                                    #~. @Dobby

                                    Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                                    PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                                    PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                                    • planedropP
                                      planedrop @Jakub_
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                                      @Jakub_ Sweet, this is at least a good start, appreciate the follow ups!

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