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      zephyrus1898
      last edited by zephyrus1898

      Hello everyone!

      I am having a strange issue with the upload bitrate to my TrueNAS server from the WAN-side of my pfSense firewall. Note that the WAN-side of my firewall is actually just the private LAN for my home network. This is intentional because I didn't want to disrupt other people on the network while I was labbing. See attached image.

      network-diagram.png.

      All cables are cat 7 or cat 8. The cable from pfSense to the switch is an SFP+ Module (4PCS 1000BASE-T Gigabit SFP to RJ45 Copper Ethernet Modular Transceiver for Cisco,Meraki,Ubiquiti,D/TP Link,Supermicro,Netgear,Broadcom, 1.25G SFP-T CAT5E/CAT6 up to 100m Mikrotik S-RJ01
      .

      pfSense Server Specs (CPU averages 11% usage, and Memory averages 2%):
      Dell Optiplex 7050 SFF Desktop PC
      Intel i7-7700 4-Cores 3.60GHz
      32GB DDR4
      1TB SSD
      Dual-Port PCIe X4 Gigabit Network Card 1000M PCI Express Ethernet Adapter with Intel 82576
      10Gb PCI-E Network Card NIC Compatible for Intel X540-T2, Dual RJ45 Copper Port

      Relevant firewall rules

      Screenshot 2023-11-12 at 3.58.42 PM.png

      I understand that the first rule makes the second rule irrelevant.

      Running ifconfig -m ix1 (WAN interface) indicates the following:

      mtu 1500
      media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>)
      supported media:
          media autoselect
          media 100baseTX
          media 1000baseT
          media 10Gbase-T
      

      And: ifconfig -m ix0 (interface from pfSense to the Switch) indicates the following:

      mtu 1500
      media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
      supported media:
          media autoselect
          media 100baseTX
          media 1000baseT
          media 10Gbase-T
      

      The problem:
      My Macbook Pro (Wi-Fi) and both Windows machines (Hardwired, Wifi - WiFi 6E AX210 PCIe WiFi Card) experience abysmally slow transfer speeds when downloading from the NAS (through pfSense). I understand that iperf3 is garbo for Windows, however the reason I sought it out was because I noticed I was no longer saturating my gigabit nic (hardwired) or my Wi-Fi adapters (about 300-400 mbps) when uploading (or downloading) to/from the server.

      However, when I am uploading/downloading between VMs on either ESXi host, I am able to fully saturate the 10gbe connection (in my SSD pool, 2x2 SSD mirror). Therefore, this should not be a spec issue on the NAS side.

      When I hardwire my MBP to the switch, I can saturate the 1gb network adapter I'm using both ways. I would expect this to be the case if I were to hardwire a Windows machine onto the switch, LAN-side of pfSense. To me, this indicates that the switch is capable of the 1gbe connections (which is known, because I can saturate 10gbe between ESXI guests).

      I have gigabit fiber, and can nearly saturate about 85-90% of every nic (Hardwired or Wi-Fi), which to me, indicates that all of cables should be fine. I have also replaced cables between the router, one PC, and pfSense.

      It is just when I am on the WAN-side of the firewall (hardwired or on Wi-Fi), my upload speeds to the server are abysmally slow (MacOS and Windows). The downloads speeds are actually about what I'd expect. More details below.

      Things I've tried:

      My home router is not capable of 9000 MTU (Jumbo Frames). However, all hardware and hosts LAN-side of pfSense were configured with Jumbo Frames originally when I discovered this issue. I've since turned that back to 1500, and nothing has changed. I've verified on the hardwired Windows host that full-duplex is being used instead of auto-negotiation, which changed nothing. Interestingly, when I disable the Windows Firewall, sometimes the upload speeds seem to fully saturate the nic--only for a short period of time, and return to the abysmally slow speed. Adding Firewall Rule to allow any to the NAS does not change things. Plus, this does not explain why the speeds from my MPB are about the same as the Windows hosts (on Wi-Fi or hard-wired WAN-side of pfSense).

      Forcing the WAN interface to negotiate 1000baseT does not resolve the issue.

      I also happen to have OpenVPN installed in pfSense. Regardless if I am hard-wired or on wi-fi on WAN-side device and connected to OpenVPN, the bitrates exhibit the same behavior.

      I am truly at a loss, and don't know what else to look at. I suspect something in pfSense or the Mikrotik Switch (linked to pfSense) is causing the bottleneck, but I don't know what? All ESXi guests use VLAN IDs, but the ESXi and TrueNAS hosts do not, and are on a LAN interface connected to one of the physical 10gbe RJ45 ports.

      e9f0b8db-3eca-40e9-8bc5-26e9226767e6-image.png

      Speed stats below:

      Download from Windows on Wi-Fi (I expect this to be about the same as the following report, ~300-400 Mbits/sec)

      .\iperf3.exe -c 10.0.1.x
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      [  4] local 192.168.1.x port 54823 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]   0.00-1.01   sec  15.8 MBytes   131 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   1.01-2.00   sec  14.4 MBytes   121 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  15.9 MBytes   133 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  15.4 MBytes   129 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   4.00-5.01   sec  15.2 MBytes   128 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   5.01-6.01   sec  16.2 MBytes   136 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   6.01-7.01   sec  14.5 MBytes   121 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   7.01-8.01   sec  14.8 MBytes   124 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   8.01-9.01   sec  15.1 MBytes   127 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   9.01-10.00  sec  16.1 MBytes   136 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   153 MBytes   129 Mbits/sec                  sender
      [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   153 MBytes   129 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      
      iperf Done.
      

      Reverse on Windows on Wi-Fi

      .\iperf3.exe -c 10.0.1.x -R
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      Reverse mode, remote host 10.0.1.x is sending
      [  4] local 192.168.1.x port 54830 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  30.9 MBytes   259 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  35.4 MBytes   297 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  33.1 MBytes   278 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  36.3 MBytes   304 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  32.8 MBytes   274 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  32.0 MBytes   269 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  31.5 MBytes   265 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  31.1 MBytes   261 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  32.2 MBytes   270 Mbits/sec
      [  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  33.1 MBytes   277 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
      [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   329 MBytes   276 Mbits/sec    0             sender
      [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   329 MBytes   276 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      
      iperf Done.
      

      Download on MBP on Wi-Fi:

      iperf3 -c 10.0.1.x
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61176 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  3.99 MBytes  33.4 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  4.22 MBytes  35.4 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  8.70 MBytes  73.2 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  13.7 MBytes   115 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  13.5 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  13.3 MBytes   111 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  13.3 MBytes   111 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  14.0 MBytes   117 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  13.5 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  13.4 MBytes   112 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes  93.6 Mbits/sec                  sender
      [  5]   0.00-10.02  sec   112 MBytes  93.3 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      
      iperf Done.
      

      Reverse on MBP:

      iperf3 -c 10.0.1.x -R
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      Reverse mode, remote host 10.0.1.x is sending
      [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61179 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  20.6 MBytes   173 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  34.1 MBytes   286 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  43.5 MBytes   365 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  40.4 MBytes   339 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  36.4 MBytes   305 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  28.8 MBytes   241 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  12.0 MBytes   101 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  13.3 MBytes   112 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  10.9 MBytes  91.2 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  8.55 MBytes  71.8 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
      [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec   250 MBytes   209 Mbits/sec   65             sender
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   249 MBytes   209 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      

      When I hardwire the MBP on the same switch as the NAS, I get:

      iperf3 -c 10.0.1.x
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      [  5] local 10.0.1.x port 61210 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   110 MBytes   925 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.09 GBytes   940 Mbits/sec                  sender
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.09 GBytes   939 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      
      iperf Done.
      

      And in reverse:

      iperf3 -c 10.0.1.x -R
      Connecting to host 10.0.1.x, port 5201
      Reverse mode, remote host 10.0.1.x is sending
      [  5] local 10.0.1.x port 61214 connected to 10.0.1.x port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   108 MBytes   910 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   110 MBytes   922 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   110 MBytes   922 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   110 MBytes   919 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   109 MBytes   918 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   110 MBytes   919 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   109 MBytes   917 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   109 MBytes   916 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   110 MBytes   921 Mbits/sec
      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   109 MBytes   916 Mbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.07 GBytes   918 Mbits/sec  17872             sender
      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.07 GBytes   918 Mbits/sec                  receiver
      
      iperf Done.
      

      I don't have an iperf3 report from the hard-wired Windows machine, but it performs similarly (download), but in reverse it saturates the interface at about 900 Mbits/sec.

      Any help would be deeply appreciated. Thank you!

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      • Z
        zephyrus1898 @zephyrus1898
        last edited by zephyrus1898

        I'll add that I ran an iperf test between Windows on Wi-Fi (server) and my MBP (client) on Wi-Fi seems to indicate that the router between them might be the issue...

        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61572 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  3.64 MBytes  30.4 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  13.3 MBytes   112 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  13.1 MBytes   110 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  15.1 MBytes   127 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  14.4 MBytes   120 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  15.5 MBytes   130 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  16.5 MBytes   138 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  16.2 MBytes   136 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  13.3 MBytes   112 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  13.6 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   135 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   135 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x -R
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.x is sending
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61578 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.01   sec  3.00 MBytes  25.0 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.01-2.00   sec  2.62 MBytes  22.0 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  3.12 MBytes  26.2 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  13.6 MBytes   115 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  17.0 MBytes   142 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  13.5 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  8.50 MBytes  71.3 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  8.62 MBytes  72.4 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  8.63 MBytes  72.0 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.01  sec  6.59 MBytes  55.3 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec  85.4 MBytes  71.6 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec  85.2 MBytes  71.4 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        

        If I hardwire the MBP behind the firewall and run the test again, I get the following:

        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61589 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  12.3 MBytes   103 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  16.6 MBytes   139 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  15.2 MBytes   127 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.01   sec  16.3 MBytes   137 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.01-5.00   sec  14.0 MBytes   118 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  14.0 MBytes   118 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  5.69 MBytes  47.7 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  3.85 MBytes  32.3 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  4.08 MBytes  34.2 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  8.47 MBytes  71.3 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   111 MBytes  92.7 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   111 MBytes  92.7 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x -R
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.x is sending
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61597 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  15.4 MBytes   129 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  10.4 MBytes  87.3 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  10.1 MBytes  84.7 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  8.79 MBytes  73.8 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  11.5 MBytes  96.0 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.01   sec  9.87 MBytes  82.7 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.01-7.00   sec  3.22 MBytes  27.1 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  2.68 MBytes  22.5 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  7.12 MBytes  59.8 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  20.0 MBytes   167 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  99.2 MBytes  83.3 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  99.1 MBytes  83.1 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        

        If I hardwire the MBP in front of the firewall (same side as the Windows on Wi-Fi), I'm actually getting the download speed I'd expect (on Wi-Fi anyways).

        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61658 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  30.9 MBytes   259 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  35.7 MBytes   300 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  34.8 MBytes   292 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  33.9 MBytes   284 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  33.0 MBytes   277 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  38.7 MBytes   324 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  38.3 MBytes   321 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  30.6 MBytes   257 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  33.7 MBytes   283 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  31.3 MBytes   263 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   341 MBytes   286 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   341 MBytes   286 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        iperf3 -c 192.168.1.x -R
        Connecting to host 192.168.1.x, port 5201
        Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.x is sending
        [  5] local 192.168.1.x port 61662 connected to 192.168.1.x port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  23.0 MBytes   193 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  16.0 MBytes   134 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  19.8 MBytes   166 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  19.3 MBytes   161 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  23.4 MBytes   197 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  23.7 MBytes   199 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  26.1 MBytes   218 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  14.0 MBytes   118 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  20.1 MBytes   169 Mbits/sec
        [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  18.8 MBytes   157 Mbits/sec
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   204 MBytes   171 Mbits/sec                  sender
        [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   204 MBytes   171 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        

        I should try these last two tests against the other hardwired windows machine, but it's not my machine so that'll have to be on hold at the moment.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          It certainly could be the WAN side router if everything is going through it.

          Try putting a switch between pfSense and that router and then testing from a hardwired client connected to that switch.

          The specs on that pfSense machine should very easily pass that traffic.

          That other router probably has a built in switch but depending on how it's how it's configured may or may not be routing/filtering the traffic.

          Steve

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            zephyrus1898 @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 oh great idea for ruling out the WAN-side router, I do have another Mikrotik switch laying around somewhere. I'll report back, might take me a couple of days.

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              zephyrus1898
              last edited by

              I can confirm that the switches on the router mr8300 (or the router hardware itself) appear to be what is the cause behind the slowness when hardwired.

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