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    Netgate 5100 inaccessible post 23.09 upgrade

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    • PhizixP
      Phizix @Gertjan
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      @Gertjan said in Netgate 5100 inaccessible post 23.09 upgrade:

      You created your own 5100-MAX, right ?

      Effectively. I also put in a 16 Gb memory stick (it was inexpensive enough)

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      • PhizixP
        Phizix @kscrib
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        @kscrib said in Netgate 5100 inaccessible post 23.09 upgrade:

        I am confused. I thought the SG-5100 did not support an internal M2 drive. I have never opened mine up. I bought the SG-5100 in 2020, if that makes a difference.

        It does not support Nvme, but does support an M.2 drive.

        I purchased the base model. Did you purchase the "MAX"? If so, apparently it already has an SSD?

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        • PhizixP
          Phizix @kscrib
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          @kscrib said in Netgate 5100 inaccessible post 23.09 upgrade:

          The installation guide states that the SG-5100 does not support NVMe. I assumed that meant the SG-5100 does not support any M2 drives.

          Here is the one I got Mar 2022 for about $35 + tax:

          Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MTS400 42 mm M.2 SSD Solid State Drive (TS64GMTS400)

          Notice that it is NOT an NVMe drive - only SSD.

          The smallest now seems to be 128GB for about $75.

          You can add memory, but I think I have very rarely exceeded 1/2 of the 16 GB I installed.

          Phizix

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          • K
            kscrib @Phizix
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            @Phizix - I ordered this one today.

            https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CL5KHL?th=1

            Kingshark Gamer SSD M.2 2242 256GB Internal Ngff SSD 42MM SATA III 6Gb/s (256GB, M.2 2242)

            for $25.29 + tax. (they offered a 6% discount coupon) and free shipping for Prime members. It had descent reviews. And if it doesn;t work, I get free returns :-)

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            • PhizixP
              Phizix @kscrib
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              @kscrib,

              Let us know how it works.

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              • K
                kscrib @Phizix
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                @Phizix -

                Installation was easy. Since the drive did not come with heat tape, I had to get some of that, so plan ahead. Also, the drive comes with two screws, but they are the wrong size for the SG-5100. I had some laying around that were the proper size, so I used that to secure the drive.

                I saved my configuration file during installation. Then I installed with ZFS on the new drive. pfSense lists the drive as "867M used (0%) of 206G" used. I will not be able to increase my log files and ntopng data retention time.

                Only time will tell if the drive holds up. But for now it works good.

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                  Now that you are installed to/booting from the SSD you should wipe the MMC while you still can to ensure it doesn't interfere with your current installation:

                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

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                    kscrib @jimp
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                    @jimp Thanks for the tip. I have completed the steps to wipe the old mmcsd0 drive.
                    The instructions don't mention what to do with mmcsd0boot0 and mmcsd0boot1. So, I decided best to not wipe those.

                    I rebooted after the change and everything is working as expected.

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                    • PhizixP
                      Phizix @jimp
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                      @jimp,

                      My 5100 eMMC still has the original UFS load from Mar 2020, but I have never had a collision.

                      I have not checked the boot priority menu for a very long time. The eMMC has never seen a ZFS load.

                      I will be converting to my 8200 near the end of the year, so I will likely not do anything with it right now.

                      Phizix

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Should be fine if it's UFS. Unless you ever decide to install as UFS to the SSD of course!

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                        • PhizixP
                          Phizix @stephenw10
                          last edited by Phizix

                          @stephenw10

                          The SSD was UFS for a very long time, but still no collisions. I know because the original UFS installed version never showed up again on the dashboard.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Maybe you named the partition something else. I have seen issues with conflicting UFS devices. Best to avoid the possibility IMO.

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                            • PhizixP
                              Phizix @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10,

                              Here is the original post where I installed and configured the boot options. I have never changed the BBS priorities since in the BIOS.

                              --> [https://forum.netgate.com/topic/141300/sg-5100-verify-that-m-2-ssd-is-recognized-after-physically-installing?_=1700249887071](link url)

                              Again my motto at this point is "if it ain't broke - don't fix it".

                              Phizix

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