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    • chris1284C
      chris1284 @coldfire7
      last edited by

      @coldfire7 Same here, after a time working no network for clients that use dhcp. Services are running and I can do anything over vpn. Kea is not active and I will go back to 2.7.0.

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @chris1284
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        @chris1284 re: DHCP, see if itโ€™s this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/15011

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @ramikilany
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          @ramikilany said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

          The NAT outbound is already set to automatic (please check the image)

          Do you actually see the expected auto OBT rules created though?

          When you try to ping from a client device how does it fail?

          What states are created on that firewall for that ping?

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          • coldfire7C
            coldfire7 @stephenw10
            last edited by coldfire7

            @stephenw10 In my case NAT rules are manually added, I also tried automatic and it showed a bunch of automatically created rules at the bottom. I can ping/trace the firewall from LAN and can ping/trace anything outbound from the firewall but cannot ping/trace anything outbound from LAN. Also, the GUI kinda felt sluggish and was taking much longer to load compared to 2.7.0.

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @coldfire7
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              @coldfire7 said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

              can ping/trace anything outbound from the firewall

              From Diagnostics/Traceroute or /Ping if you select the Source Address of LAN does it succeed?

              An open state would indicate if the firewall is allowing the outbound connection.

              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
              Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @coldfire7
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                @coldfire7 said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

                cannot ping/trace anything outbound from LAN.

                How does it fail when you try?

                What states are created in the firewall when you do?

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                • coldfire7C
                  coldfire7 @SteveITS
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                  @SteveITS 2023-11-21_00-02-20.png

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                  • coldfire7C
                    coldfire7 @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 2023-11-21_00-03-05.png

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10

                      Ok, so there's no outbound NAT happening on the DOT interface.

                      Is there an auto rule being created for that? Or a manual rule in place?

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                      • coldfire7C
                        coldfire7 @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 Manual and auto both didn't work. Since you said no outbound NAT is working, I started testing by turning things on and off to see if I could get it back working again and finally, I have found the issue. The firewall has 2 WAN interfaces. I disabled number 2 a few days ago since the connection was offline due to a fibre cut but the NAT rules for that interface are still present, those rules are causing the NAT to stop working when the interface is disabled. If I disable those rules or re-enable the WAN interface NAT starts working again. This bug/issue started from CE v2.7.1. In CE v2.7.0 and previous versions, it was working fine.

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                          ramikilany
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                          Same things for me, I worked also with a network engineer and test a lot of things in our network up to the firewall. The internet connection is blocked in the LAN network, so we switched to other vlan from the core switch, it works for 5 minutes. after 5 minutes it block the internet connection try other vlan works and stopped working after a time. After more than 20 hours we have problem in the DHCP network the problem was only in the internet then it continue to not connect to the servers and between each others.

                          I downgraded to 2.7.0 and of course other issues happens:
                          1- pfblocker is not installed and cannot installed
                          2- the package manager stops showing the software to install (try to reinstall pfblocker)
                          3- the image disappear (not huge problem but just to mention)
                          4- i have crash in the system:

                          Crash report begins. Anonymous machine information:

                          amd64
                          14.0-CURRENT
                          FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #1 RELENG_2_7_0-n255866-686c8d3c1f0: Wed Jun 28 04:21:19 UTC 2023 root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-CE-snapshots-2_7_0-main/obj/amd64/LwYAddCr/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-CE-snapshots-2_7_0-main/sources/FreeBSD-src-REL

                          Crash report details:

                          PHP Errors:
                          [21-Nov-2023 10:40:42 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          [21-Nov-2023 10:45:42 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          [21-Nov-2023 10:50:43 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          [21-Nov-2023 10:55:43 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          [21-Nov-2023 11:00:43 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          [21-Nov-2023 11:05:44 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ftp.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so (Shared object "libssl.so.30" not found, required by "ftp.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20220829/ftp.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0

                          No FreeBSD crash data found
                          Screenshot from 2023-11-21 13-09-52.png

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                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @ramikilany
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                            @ramikilany when you installed 2.7.0 did you change your update branch to Previous before trying to install any packages (from the later version)?

                            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                            Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @coldfire7
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                              @coldfire7 said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

                              I disabled number 2 a few days ago since the connection was offline due to a fibre cut but the NAT rules for that interface are still present, those rules are causing the NAT to stop working when the interface is disabled.

                              NAT rules can be present, they don't direct traffic. NAT rules only translate traffic that is already leaving that interface.

                              So you can see in the states opened by that ping the traffic leaving on the DOT interface but not being NAT'd. There are probably no NAT rules on DOT. Or at least none that match. NAT rule on the DHK interface have no effect there. What NAT rules do you have on DOT?

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                              • chris1284C
                                chris1284 @SteveITS
                                last edited by

                                @SteveITS said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

                                @chris1284 re: DHCP, see if itโ€™s this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/15011

                                don't know, was an unacceptable situation so reinstall and config restore was a quick solution

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                                • coldfire7C
                                  coldfire7 @stephenw10
                                  last edited by coldfire7

                                  @stephenw10 NAT rules are present for all the WAN and VPN interfaces.

                                  I checked this like 10 times and I'm 100% sure. If I disable the WAN 2 (DHK) interface while the WAN 2 NAT rules are present, NAT stops working for all interfaces. I either have to re-enable the WAN 2 interface or remove/disable the WAN 2 NAT rules to get it back working again.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Hmm, hard to see how that could affect traffic on the DOT interface, which I assume is WAN1?

                                    With WAN2 connected and all the NAT rules enabled is working traffic still using WAN1?

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                                    • coldfire7C
                                      coldfire7 @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

                                      Hmm, hard to see how that could affect traffic on the DOT interface, which I assume is WAN1?

                                      Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either. WAN1=DOT WAN2=DHK

                                      @stephenw10 said in No internet after upgrading to 2.7.1-ce from 2.7.0-ce:

                                      With WAN2 connected and all the NAT rules enabled is working traffic still using WAN1?

                                      Yeah, as long as the interface is enabled, it doesn't have to be connected.

                                      Also, note both WANs are PPPoE.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Ah, is it possible they share the same gateway address? The two PPPoE links I have hit that issue.

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                                        • coldfire7C
                                          coldfire7 @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Nope, totally different IP prefixes.

                                          I noticed something else. The NAT address changes from DHK addresses to opt1ip when I disable the WAN 2 (DHK) interface, this doesn't happen in CE 2.7.0 or older versions.

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                                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @coldfire7
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                                            @coldfire7 Well that sounds awfully suspicious. Does that part of the config file change when you make that change and redownload it?

                                            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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