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    pfSense as subrouter, track interface and routing problems

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      Spaylia @JKnott
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      @JKnott In the linked post, you say you're using "track interface", not SLAAC for LAN.

      When I want to change to SLAAC, here's the message I get:
      SLAAC.jpg

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        JKnott @Spaylia
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        @Spaylia

        Do you still have DHCPv6 enabled? Try with it off.

        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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          Spaylia @JKnott
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          @JKnott No DHCPv6 as always been disable on LAN, I only use RA.

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            JKnott @Spaylia
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            @Spaylia

            What happens if you connect pfSense directly to your ISP, instead of your other router? Also, sometimes it's easier to start from scratch than trying to find the problem.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              JKnott @Spaylia
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              @Spaylia said in pfSense as subrouter, track interface and routing problems:

              When I want to change to SLAAC, here's the message I get:

              Did you configure a static address on your LAN? You don't have to with SLAAC.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                Spaylia @JKnott
                last edited by Spaylia

                @JKnott said in pfSense as subrouter, track interface and routing problems:

                Did you configure a static address on your LAN? You don't have to with SLAAC.

                I can do that, but it still doesn't route from LAN to WAN :(

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                  Spaylia @Spaylia
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                  @JKnott I managed to make it work temporarily, I could ping internet from the LAN interface, but my clients still couldn't. Oddly enough there was no addresses on the LAN interface.

                  When I rebooted, LAN address came back and ping wasn't working anymore. I tried both "track interface" and static IP.

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                    JKnott @Spaylia
                    last edited by JKnott

                    @Spaylia

                    Maybe you should start over from scratch. You might have made so many changes starting over may be easier. Start with the config I provided for my ISP.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                      Spaylia
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                      @JKnott do I need to add a route or gateway in the first router?

                      With IPv4, the router keeps a table of the translated address and port and sends the response back where it comes from, to be translated by the second router.

                      I'm not sure about IPv6. Does the router know where it comes from if it comes from another subnet (behind router 2)?

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                        JKnott @Spaylia
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                        @Spaylia

                        With IPv6, the default route is set automagically. With SLAAC, it's provided by the router advertisements. You can see this, if you capture with Packet Capture, filtering on icmp6.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          Spaylia @JKnott
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                          @JKnott I'm not asking about the default route, but a downstream route for Router 1, to send the responses to Router 2

                          When a client requests something, it goes:
                          Client -> router 2 -> router 1 -> internet

                          When the server answers
                          internet -> router 1 -> router 2 -> client

                          Do I need a route from router 1 to router 2 so the answer can be router back?

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                            JKnott @Spaylia
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                            @Spaylia

                            It will know the route to the next router, but not the network behind it. So, you'll have to configure the route for that network.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                              Spaylia @JKnott
                              last edited by Spaylia

                              @JKnott Alright, I got it to work, it was a problem with the configuration of R1, after looking at the routes in R1, I noticed it wasn't delegating the prefix properly.

                              Although devices (mostly debian hosts) under R1 are still advertised with R2 (pfsense) WAN as a default route. Would you know if there's a way to see who advertised a route on debian?

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                                JKnott @Spaylia
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                                @Spaylia

                                Do a Packet Capture, filtering on icmp6. You will, after a few minutes, have some router advertisements, which provide the route. Examine the source MAC address to see where it's coming from.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  Spaylia @JKnott
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                                  @JKnott Makes sense, thank you!

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                                    Spaylia @Spaylia
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                                    @JKnott well, it comes from pfSense WAN somehow

                                    2023-12-02 23:35:52.560376 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:5d (oui Unknown) > 33:33:00:00:00:01 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv6 (0x86dd), length 198: fe80::xxxx:xxff:fexx:xx5d > ip6-allnodes: ICMP6, router advertisement, length 144

                                    5d is the MAC address/link local address of the WAN interface
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                                      JKnott @Spaylia
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                                      @Spaylia

                                      That's not right. It can only be the LAN interface.

                                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                        Spaylia @JKnott
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                                        @JKnott Since I can't add a deny rule for router advertisement on WAN (I guess hidden rules come before to allow it), I added an ip6tables rule to deny icmpv6 type 134 (RA) from fe80::xxxx:xxff:fexx:xx5d to all clients in the WAN of pfsense, and I don't get the route anymore.

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                                          JKnott @Spaylia
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                                          @Spaylia

                                          Well, I don't know what to say. It's a really strange system you have there. The MAC address comes from the NIC, not pfSense. So, if you're seeing the MAC, that is the 48 bit hardware address, on the LAN side, there must be some other path involved. This is why I asked you to provide the Packet Capture file, so that I can examine it in Wireshark.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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