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    Need advice on hardware that will support 1GB fiber full duplex

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      FrankZappa
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      Hi,
      It appears Cox will string fiber in my neighborhood soon, and they say it will be full-duplex 1GB fiber (can't wait).

      Question, are there any recommendations on equipment that will support this i.e. Netgate boxes, Protecli boxes, Computers, etc?

      Right now I have Cox (coax) w 1GB down and 30Mbps up. I'm running pfSense off an old i7 Laptop with 2 Nics. My rig runs fine, although I cant seem to ever get 1GB down on iperf test or even speed test CLI (Usually 650Mbps is the max). Not sure if that's a function of Cox, or it's my laptop using pfSense being the choke point.

      Ergo my original question. I would like a box that will give me a full 1GB duplex speed (on fiber). Any ideas? Thanks

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        keyser Rebel Alliance @FrankZappa
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        @FrankZappa An i7 CPU - even if it is 8 years old - should have no quarrels with handling 1gbe Full Duplex.
        But the NIC you are using might - ESPECIALLY if one of them is USB based. That always causes loads of performance problems.

        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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          FrankZappa @keyser
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          @keyser Agreed. However, I'm not using a USB NIC. Here's my current config:

          Dell 6420 laptop with i7, 128GB SSD and 8GB RAM

          PfSense Version 23.09-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)

          CPU Type Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
          Current: 800 MHz, Max: 2701 MHz
          4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 hardware threads
          AES-NI CPU Crypto: Yes (active)

          Sonnet Technologies Presto Gigabit Ethernet Pro ExpressCard/34 which has a Broadcom chip (BCM57762) which covers down on WAN connection. I use the Internal Intel NIC on my LAN connection.

          All that said, I'm no expert on Express Cards and how the MOBO handles the throughput. It might work fine, but it might not be able to handle 1GB pipes No idea.

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            keyser Rebel Alliance @FrankZappa
            last edited by

            @FrankZappa Theoretically the expresscard has the needed bandwidth (2.5Gbit), but that may not be the complete story.
            back in those days (your system is a 12 year old Sandy Bridge setup) there were a LOT of systems where the I/O buses in no way was actually designed or implemented in systems so it could use its full potentential.

            But my intial guess is you should be fine to handle 1Gbe Full duplex on that setup

            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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              FrankZappa @keyser
              last edited by

              @keyser Thanks Kyser. I was thinking the same thing. However, I am unable to get 1GB down on my current setup. Not sure why.

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                keyser Rebel Alliance @FrankZappa
                last edited by keyser

                @FrankZappa Perhaps try a quick synthetic test? Place a 1Gbe machine on the WAN link, and do a iPerf test through your pfSense to a client on the inside?

                Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                  SteveITS Galactic Empire @FrankZappa
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                  @FrankZappa So when Netgate lists numbers like this for the 4100:

                  L3 Forwarding
                  IPERF3 Traffic: 8.15 Gbps
                  IMIX Traffic: 3.24 Gbps

                  Firewall (10k ACLs)
                  IPERF3 Traffic: 4.09 Gbps
                  IMIX Traffic: 1.40 Gbps

                  IPsec VPN (AES-GCM-128 w/QAT)
                  IPERF3 Traffic: 960 Mbps
                  IMIX Traffic: 312 Mbps

                  …based on experience and forum posts I find about halfway between the “firewall” numbers is an expected rate. As implied by the VPN numbers that decreases for CPU intensive activity such as Suricata.

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                    Gertjan @FrankZappa
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                    @FrankZappa

                    Quick test from my PC, on a pfSense "1 Gbits" LAN network :

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                    during this test several other PC's where also active, as it is monday morning and people tend to do 'things' with their PC right now.
                    My ISP promised me 1 G bits symmetrical : if they have it available, I'll get it.

                    My "4100" with some minor pfBlockerng DNSBL doesn't sweat at all (about 10 % CPU usage).
                    ( Btw : I don't have anty snort, suricata bandwithd, ntop etc packages)

                    Keep in mind : my box uses a
                    Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C3338R @ 1.80GHz - 2 CPUs : 1 package(s) x 2 core(s)
                    You have an i7 😊

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      FrankZappa @Gertjan
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                      @Gertjan Thanks for all the info. I connected my laptop PC directly to my Unifi switch (via CAT6) and ran iperf (server hosted on pfSense box). It's pulling around 940Mbps (Close enough to 1GB). However, when I run a speed test (Ookla) I'm only pulling down around 540Mbps. I'm just wondering if the express card might be the limiting factor.

                      I'll connect my laptop PC directly to the Cox modem next. Have to wait a bit on that one as the Internet in the house will go down and it tends to get loud in this house when that happens.

                      Stay tuned.

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                        keyser Rebel Alliance @FrankZappa
                        last edited by

                        @FrankZappa The best test would be to briefly connect your WAN (Expresscard) to your Unifi Switch, and assign the pfSense and iPerf Client static addresses so you can perform the exact same iPerf test as before - only this time using the Expresscard.

                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                          FrankZappa @keyser
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                          @keyser So switch the LAN and WAN Interfaces? Right now my Express Card is connected to the Cox Modem. Internal LAN is connected to the switch. I'm 99% certain the express card supports 1GB (according to the manufacturer). However, I'm unsure if the computer (Dell Laptop) MOBO can simultaneously handle 1GB on internal LAN Port and 1GB on express card.

                          All that said, I'll try your technique and report back.

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                            keyser Rebel Alliance @FrankZappa
                            last edited by

                            @FrankZappa Well switching interfaces will acomplish the same thing so yeah - that test will reveal if the expresscard is the bottleneck.
                            I’m certain your cpu can handle 2 Gbit traffic, But the labtop itself might have some badly designed connectivity that either cannot reach its actual potential, or might prevent other parts from doing so. A Very bad BIOS/UEFI might influence that too.
                            I’m only interested in seeing if the expresscard is the bottleneck, or if something Else is af play

                            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                              FrankZappa @keyser
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                              @keyser Ok. I'm om it, but might have to wait till no one in the house. Like I said before, when the Internet goes down in this house, there's panic at the disco.

                              Thanks for the advice.

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                                dennypage @FrankZappa
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                                @FrankZappa FWIW, I am on Cox cable with 2Gb down (only 100Mb up), which the Netgate 6100 handles well.

                                DOWNLOAD   Mbps 2203.15
                                UPLOAD     Mbps 106.11
                                
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                                  FrankZappa @dennypage
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                                  @dennypage Nice speeds. I'm hoping fiber will give me 1GB up and Down

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