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    Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!

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      MidGe48 @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz

      Hi Johnpoz,

      The answer you give is not relevant. I am not setting VLAN's at all. These ports [OPT1 and OPT2] are for discreet physical LAN networks.

      The docs page that is relevant for this is https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/opt-lan.html.

      But thanks for trying to help. I may not have been clear enough in my original post.

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @MidGe48
        last edited by johnpoz

        @MidGe48 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

        These ports [OPT1 and OPT2] are for discreet physical LAN networks.

        And since your on a switch, you would have to set those up in the switch to be discrete.. Which the link I posted.

        The 2100 has a switch, they default to all being the lan, if you want to break out ports to be discrete - you have to set them up to do that..

        if your not using a 2100, my bad and I apologize - maybe I confused this thread with another one.. Not sure where I got you were using a 2100??

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          @johnpoz said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

          2100

          Is this a 2100?

          Does it work if you don't use Kea?

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            MidGe48 @w0w
            last edited by

            @w0w

            Unfortunately no saved configs. I though that with a fresh install I would have no need and deleted them as soon as I thought everything was working fine.

            I am going to give it one more try with a fresh install, if that fails, I will have to look into some alternatives, which is a pity as after a few years, I was quite conversant with ipSense which had been running very solidly.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

              Is this a 2100?

              That might have been my bad Steve - not sure where I got he was on a 2100.. Looking over the thread I don't see where he stated that.. Doh!!

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                MidGe48 @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                Yes, not using a switch.

                I am using a protectli vault.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @MidGe48
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @MidGe48 well if its discrete and your not getting an IP from dhcp, then either dhcp is not running on that interface? Or your connection isn't valid.

                  You validated dhcp is running and listening on that interface.. Does it log show anything from client(s) on this network.. Dhcp would work with zero rules on the interface, because when you enable dhcp hidden rules are created that allow for dhcp.

                  So either dhcp is not running, or its not seeing any requests/discovers. etc.. or it doesn't have any leases available?

                  Other possible thing - you sure your assigned to the correct interfaces on the box? Does the interface show up when you plug in your device or switch?

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                    MidGe48 @w0w
                    last edited by

                    @w0w

                    Ok, managed to install a last known working configuration.

                    Unfortunately , the interfaces for OPT1 and OPT2 show "autoselected" but disable (red cross) on the gui.

                    Also when restoring from backup, the packages that were installed are not. When I go to package manager, it shows none installed and when I go to available packages it shows me "Unable to retrieve package information.".

                    That being said, the LAN port works and devices connected to it can access the internet, etc.

                    I am now wondering, if OPT1 and OPT2 are borked. Although it is quite unlikely to have two ports borked simultaneously and the third (LAN) and fourth (WAN) not.

                    I am not sure how to test whether there is a hardware fault on these ports. The lights at the connection are on (unblinking of course).

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Run ifconfig at the command line and see which NICs are actually linked. Unplug one of the OPT ports and make sure the one that goes down if what you think it is.

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                        MidGe48 @MidGe48
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                        @MidGe48

                        Some progress being made.

                        On my test (for this exercise) machine running Linux. Changing the connection type from "Automatic (DHCP)" to "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" the bringing eth0 down and back up and it connects correctly and gets an ip address, of course. That is all on a working version before last upgrade and before switching to Kea.

                        So, now the issue is that one of the failing interfaces connect all sorts of IOT and media devices that I do not want to get into other subnets on my network (paranoia about privacy :) ). I am not sure if can change the way they request a DHCP connection. Or I may need change the way the DHCP server handles that. But there must have been a change very recently because I have had no such issues for a few years at least with my current network topology.

                        But thanks all for your help.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @MidGe48
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          @MidGe48 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

                          but disable (red cross) on the gui.

                          What would your client dhcp setting have to do with an interface not coming up? Make no sense.. If you connect something to that interface it should come up.. Regardless what dhcp or bootp or whatever protocol you might want to be using for dhcp, maybe the client is static.. None of that has anything to do with the interface coming up on your router.

                          Maybe just the bounce on the client interface is what brought up the interface on the router, that would make more sense then what you set its dhcp client to do.

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                            MidGe48 @MidGe48
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                            @MidGe48

                            Since that last message and restoring a two month old backup, the interface comes up on the router as per my previous post.

                            Still have problems with the clients not being to connect unless I change the connection type on the client. This is possible on my Linux machines but a lot of IOT devices I use do not have that facility and do not connect readily, or connect but get no internet (DNS issue, I guess).

                            Note that all of this started happening after a complete new install of pfSense, following a crash whilst moving to the new Kea DHCP as suggested on the GUI.

                            It has now taken me three days in trying to resolve this issue. Three days, given my age, likely to be a too big proportion of the rest of my live. It may be alright for most, or youger ones, but its too long for me. I came to pfSense a number of years ago after experiencing too many crashes with Opnsense. I think I may have to start looking at another alternative.

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @MidGe48
                              last edited by

                              @MidGe48 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

                              (DNS issue, I guess)

                              Don't guess. Be sure ;) Some tests :

                              When you start pfSense, the console shows a lot of useful info.
                              Like these :

                              ....
                              igc0: <Intel(R) Ethernet Controller I225-V> mem 0x81300000-0x813fffff,0x81400000-0x81403fff at device 0.0 on pci4
                              ...
                              igc1: <Intel(R) Ethernet Controller I225-V> mem 0x81100000-0x811fffff,0x81200000-0x81203fff at device 0.0 on pci5
                              ...
                              igc2: <Intel(R) Ethernet Controller I225-V> mem 0x81100000-0x811fffff,0x81200000-0x81203fff at device 0.0 on pci5
                              ....
                              

                              etc.
                              I have the "igc" family of network cards, yours might be different. Like 'em'. These lines mean : the kernel found the hardware.

                              These found interfaces have to be assigned in the GUI :

                              46b45dbb-0591-4594-83c1-23076748c383-image.png

                              When booted into pfSense, go console, or SSH - option 8 :

                              Check what processes are using (listening) on port 67 (DHCP):

                              [23.09-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: sockstat -4l | grep ':67'
                              root     kea-dhcp4  23282 19  udp4   192.168.1.1:67        *:*
                              root     kea-dhcp4  23282 21  udp4   192.168.2.1:67        *:*
                              root     kea-dhcp4  23282 23  udp4   192.168.100.1:67      *:*
                              

                              As I have 3 LANs on pfSense, 192.168.1.1/24, 192.168.2.1/24 and 192.168.100.1/24, and these 3 LANs are being set up on my pfSense using "DHCP-server" - or, actually KEA (same thing for me) I know on the pfSense side all is ok.

                              The same test can be done for the resolver (unbound) (note that I'm testing for IPv4 and IPv6 now :

                              [23.09-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: sockstat -l | grep ':53'
                              unbound  unbound    63341 3   udp6   *:53                  *:*
                              unbound  unbound    63341 4   tcp6   *:53                  *:*
                              unbound  unbound    63341 5   udp4   *:53                  *:*
                              unbound  unbound    63341 6   tcp4   *:53                  *:*
                              
                              

                              which means : for all interfaces (yep, even WAN), for both IPv4 and IPv6, both TCP and UDP ( ! ) unbound listens on port '53'.

                              If DNS traffic doesn't reach unbound on pfSEnse now, then this can be only one reason : a firewall rule on the interface blocks TCP or UDP port 53 traffic - that this interface.

                              I presume you don't use smart-switches or something like that.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                MidGe48
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                                Hello Gertjan,

                                OK, I did what you suggested.

                                1. On the GUI i have all the interface assignment showing with the correct (I hope) network port.

                                2. There are NO processes using or listening on port 67

                                3. The resolver (unbound) shows me a single process for tcp4 and udp4. I have disable ipv6 everywhere so I suppose this is correct.

                                The issue now, is with having no processes listening on port 67! But, now that I have reverted to a backup of two months ago when everything was dandy, I am not using Kea at the moment.

                                I am using unmanaged switches, so that should not be an issue.

                                Thanking you very much for trying to help me.

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                                  MidGe48 @MidGe48
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                                  @MidGe48

                                  My boot log shows the ports working as well, I presume:

                                  igb3: netmap queues/slots: TX 4/1024, RX 4/1024
                                  igb3: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:21:65:5f
                                  igb3: Using MSI-X interrupts with 5 vectors
                                  igb3: Using 4 RX queues 4 TX queues
                                  igb3: Using 1024 TX descriptors and 1024 RX descriptors
                                  igb3: NVM V0.6 imgtype6
                                  igb3: <Intel(R) I210 Flashless (Copper)> port 0xb000-0xb01f mem 0xb1200000-0xb121ffff,0xb1220000-0xb1223fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4
                                  pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
                                  pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0
                                  igb2: netmap queues/slots: TX 4/1024, RX 4/1024
                                  igb2: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:21:65:5e
                                  igb2: Using MSI-X interrupts with 5 vectors
                                  igb2: Using 4 RX queues 4 TX queues
                                  igb2: Using 1024 TX descriptors and 1024 RX descriptors
                                  igb2: NVM V0.6 imgtype6
                                  igb2: <Intel(R) I210 Flashless (Copper)> port 0xc000-0xc01f mem 0xb1300000-0xb131ffff,0xb1320000-0xb1323fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3
                                  pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
                                  pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0
                                  igb1: netmap queues/slots: TX 4/1024, RX 4/1024
                                  igb1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:21:65:5d
                                  igb1: Using MSI-X interrupts with 5 vectors
                                  igb1: Using 4 RX queues 4 TX queues
                                  igb1: Using 1024 TX descriptors and 1024 RX descriptors
                                  igb1: NVM V0.6 imgtype6
                                  igb1: <Intel(R) I210 Flashless (Copper)> port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 0xb1400000-0xb141ffff,0xb1420000-0xb1423fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
                                  pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
                                  pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0
                                  igb0: netmap queues/slots: TX 4/1024, RX 4/1024
                                  igb0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:21:65:5c
                                  igb0: Using MSI-X interrupts with 5 vectors
                                  igb0: Using 4 RX queues 4 TX queues
                                  igb0: Using 1024 TX descriptors and 1024 RX descriptors
                                  igb0: NVM V0.6 imgtype6
                                  igb0: <Intel(R) I210 Flashless (Copper)> port 0xe000-0xe01f mem 0xb1500000-0xb151ffff,0xb1520000-0xb1523fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
                                  pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
                                  pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0

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                                  • GertjanG
                                    Gertjan @MidGe48
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                                    @MidGe48

                                    Good news : your device has supported network hardware.
                                    Not really a surprise, as it worked before.

                                    Btw : you are using the pfSense CE 2.7.1, right ?

                                    What did the sockstat test show ?

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      MidGe48 @Gertjan
                                      last edited by

                                      @Gertjan

                                      Yes, using pfSense CE 2.7.1

                                      On the GUI i have all the interface assignment showing with the correct (I hope) network port.

                                      There are NO processes using or listening on port 67

                                      The resolver (unbound) shows me a single process for tcp4 and udp4. I have disable ipv6 everywhere so I suppose this is correct.

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @MidGe48
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        @MidGe48 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

                                        There are NO processes using or listening on port 67

                                        that means : no DHCP server is serving 'DCP leases'.
                                        Check the system log and dhcp log page ( Status > System Logs> DHCP ), and see what happened.

                                        Yo said ; "Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!" so I dedecut that LAN is ok.
                                        But without a DHCP server running on LAN, you should also have DHCP issues on your LAN interface.
                                        Except if you have shut down the DHCP server on your LAN .....

                                        If there is no DHCP servers running on a LAN, or OPT or OPT2, etc then it's normal that DHCP clients, your devices, ,don't get any DHCP lease => NO IP, no gatway, no DNS, so no connection what so ever.

                                        Btw : If you were using dhcpd-isc (not KEA) ;

                                        [23.09-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: sockstat -4l | grep 'dhcpd'
                                        dhcpd    dhcpd      76530 13  udp4   *:67                  *:*
                                        

                                        which means that there is one process listing to 'all' interfaces.
                                        Using UDPv4 of course, on port 67.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          MidGe48 @Gertjan
                                          last edited by

                                          @Gertjan

                                          [2.7.1-RELEASE][admin@trakka.midge.home.arpa]/root: sockstat -4l | grep 'dhcpd'
                                          dhcpd dhcpd 32156 13 udp4 *:48463

                                          So, no TCP?!

                                          Unfortunately I cannot bring my network down now. There are important, to me, processes running, and the router is my perimeter firewall and router.. I will restart the router and pull the logs of boot, system general, firewall and dhcp a few minutes after a reboot. That will be in about 12 -13 hours from now.

                                          The log are so long now and I can't quite remember at which times I made what changes. The only thing I can say is that they look normal.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            DHCP is a UDP protocol, it shouldn't be listening for TCP.

                                            But why yours is not listening on port 67 is very odd.

                                            You shouldn't need to change the dhcp client settings on the hosts and in fact setting it to 'address only' is probably going to break stuff as they won't be passed dns or time servers etc.

                                            Do you see leases in Status > DHCP Leases? Perhaps you have a rogue DHCP server somewhere else.

                                            @MidGe48 said in Yes, I know! Another OPT1 and OPT2 no internet connection!:

                                            the correct (I hope) network port

                                            You need to know they are the correct ports because they may be the cause of all the problems here. Check with ifconfig as you connect or disconnect links.

                                            Steve

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