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      enesas
      last edited by enesas

      Hello
      There is already a pfsense system on an old xeon processor. However, the CPU is usually between 80-100%. This causes some services to be disabled (such as ntopng).
      Now I want to buy new hardware. But I want to get your advice.
      Services I currently use/or will use:

      • Snort/suricata
        -Ntopng
      • Pfblockerng
        -OpenVPN 50 users
      • DNS Resolver service
        -200-250 users in total
      • 15 Vlans
      • I will connect the LAN part to the switches with an SFP + card. (video transfers are too much)
      • I want to make INTER-VLAN access via pfsense
        -And of course, I think there needs to be good hardware against attacks coming from LAN-WAN.

      The company I will use is very sensitive to outages. So disruption is not desired.

      about this
      I'm considering an i5 or i7 10 -12 generation processor. But I'm not sure if I'm thinking right.
      What kind of hardware do you think it should be?

      CPU
      RAM
      DISK
      SFP+ card

      Thanks in advance for your recommendations.

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      • NollipfSenseN
        NollipfSense @enesas
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        @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

        considering an i5 or i7 10 -12 generation processor.

        I would pick the i7-12th generation just to be on the safe side...

        pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
        pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          What is the actual CPU currently in use?

          What bandwidth does the firewall need to pass?

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            enesas @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10
            CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz (2266.82-MHz K8-class CPU)

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

              E5520

              Ok pretty old then but capable. If it's running at 90% it must be passing significant traffic. What bandwidth does the firewall need to pass?

              Almost any current CPU will be as fast or faster than that Xeon though.

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                JKnott @enesas
                last edited by

                @enesas

                I bought a Qotom mini PC, as described in my sig. Works well.

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  enesas @JKnott
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                  @JKnott said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                  @enesas

                  I bought a Qotom mini PC, as described in my sig. Works well.

                  IS YOUR CONFIGURATION SIMILAR TO WHAT I AM SAYING?

                  I ASKED FOR COMPARISON.

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                    enesas @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                    @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                    E5520

                    Ok pretty old then but capable. If it's running at 90% it must be passing significant traffic. What bandwidth does the firewall need to pass?

                    Almost any current CPU will be as fast or faster than that Xeon though.

                    The Wan side has approximately 1 Gbit Bandwidth.
                    If I do local or inter-Lan, this can reach 3-4 gbit.
                    (not always)

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @enesas
                      last edited by JKnott

                      @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                      IS YOUR CONFIGURATION SIMILAR TO WHAT I AM SAYING?

                      The configuration depends on how you set it up. I do have a VLAN for example, but I do not use snort, etc.. You need hardware with enough resources to do what you want. With my system, the CPU is running at less than 10% when running speedtest at over 900 Mb down.

                      Regardess, you don't have to get what I got. There are plenty of other mini PCs around and many are intended for use with pfSense or OPNsense. They are also available with varying number of Ethernet ports. Mine has 4.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                      • NollipfSenseN
                        NollipfSense @enesas
                        last edited by

                        @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                        IS YOUR CONFIGURATION SIMILAR TO WHAT I AM SAYING?

                        I ASKED FOR COMPARISON.

                        So, why shout at him...no where in your original post did you asked for comparison...you asked for recommendation and indicated you're considering i5 or i7 processor. He gave you an i5 processor hardware recommendation, didn't he?

                        Ultimately, only you, as network administrator of your network will determine what's best for you. We all had to make our own choice of hardware for what we want to accomplish with our network.

                        pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                        pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                          Patch @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                          What bandwidth does the firewall need to pass?

                          @enesas Without providing that information very little specific advice can be given.

                          You already have a bench mark (your existing system), relative generic processor comparisons are easily found online. For balanced systems bench marked for pfsense performance see https://www.netgate.com/pfsense-plus-software/how-to-buy#appliances

                          There is no justification for shouting given your (some what lazy request) and considered responses received.

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                            enesas
                            last edited by

                            I didn't shout at anyone! Maybe there is a pronunciation error due to translation. Don't be sorry about this.

                            Thank you all for taking the time to help.

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                              enesas @JKnott
                              last edited by

                              @JKnott Thank you very much

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @enesas
                                last edited by

                                @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                                I didn't shout at anyone!

                                You wrote in all CAPS:

                                @enesas said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                                I ASKED FOR COMPARISON.

                                It was probably just a mistake but it reads like you are demanding a comparison. 😉

                                It's all good!

                                Steve

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                                  enesas
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                                  Thanks everyone I bought the hardware.

                                  ⬇️
                                  500gb NVM
                                  i7 12 . GENERATION
                                  32GB RAM.
                                  Lan: sfp+ NIC

                                  The hardware may be a little high, but that's okay, after all, we don't change it all the time. :)

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                                  • NollipfSenseN
                                    NollipfSense @enesas
                                    last edited by

                                    @enesas Good choice...should last at least five-years...congrats!

                                    pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                                    pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah that should handle just about anything!

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                                        coxhaus @NollipfSense
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                                        @NollipfSense
                                        Why 12th gen? Is the CPU instruction set that much different?

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                                        • NollipfSenseN
                                          NollipfSense @coxhaus
                                          last edited by

                                          @coxhaus said in PFsense hardware recommendation HELP!:

                                          Why 12th gen? Is the CPU instruction set that much different?

                                          It was the OP's choice and I just affirmed...

                                          pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                                          pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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