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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
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      @JKnott yeah only 4k each.. Its going to run out fast ;) heheh

      Keep in mind that is only using the small portion of Ipv6 that has actually been allocated for use..

      But then we have ISP being stingy and only giving users either only a single /64 or small /56..

      A /56 can have 256 /64's so it is for sure large enough for pretty much any home or smb.. But its the principle of the thing ;) heheh

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        DrPhil @johnpoz
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        Looks like my celebration was a bit premature.

        I requested a /60, and I assumed I got it because pfSense let me pick a different IPv6 Prefix ID for my DMZ interface. I picked 0 for LAN and 1 for DMZ, and was happy.

        However, I was still having issues on DMZ. My linux server was not getting a v6 IP assigned dynamically, and when I tried to "force" the client to get one

        sudo dhclient -6 -v eno1
        

        I got a v6 IP, which was labelled "scope global" vs. "scope global dynamic". But the bigger issue I think is that the prefix is the same as what I have on LAN.

        I suspect it's because my ISP is only giving me a /64 prefix even though I am requesting a /60.

        PS: I've been on the phone with Verizon now for more than an hour, having been transferred a few times. Still haven't found a person who understands what I am asking for.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DrPhil
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          @DrPhil prefixes can be a bit harder to spot with IPv6.. do you mind posting what you got on your lan and dmz? You can PM them too me.

          The guy to ask most likely would be @JKnott he is our resident IPv6 fan boy ;) and expert.. I run IPv6, but my isp doesn't even have it so I run a HE tunnel. which is a static /48 they assign to me.. But you could for sure watch your dhcp traffic from your isp and see what they are handing you for delegation be it a /60 or /56 or a /64, etc.

          How are you trying to hand your clients on your dmz IPv6, dhcpv6? just SLAAC?

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @DrPhil
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            @DrPhil said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

            I suspect it's because my ISP is only giving me a /64 prefix even though I am requesting a /60.

            Do a packet capture of the full DHCPv6 sequence and post the capture file here.

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              DrPhil @johnpoz
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              @DrPhil prefixes can be a bit harder to spot with IPv6.. do you mind posting what you got on your lan and dmz? You can PM them too me.

              Just PMed those over to you.

              How are you trying to hand your clients on your dmz IPv6, dhcpv6? just SLAAC?

              dhcpv6.

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @DrPhil
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                @DrPhil said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                Just PMed those over to you.

                I don't see anything.

                Just post it in the thread, so it will be available to others.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DrPhil
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                  @DrPhil said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                  Just PMed those over to you.

                  Yeah those are not right if they have a /128 on them..

                  @JKnott he sent me the IPs he has on lan and dmz, but they show a /128

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                    he sent me the IPs he has on lan and dmz, but they show a /128

                    That's fine for the WAN, but not a prefix. I have a /128 for my WAN too.

                    I guess he sent the file to you but not me.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
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                      @JKnott no he didn't send any file, just the ips with /128 on them.

                      Those sure can not work for a lan side network - sure as a transit on the wan no problem..

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                        DrPhil @JKnott
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                        @JKnott

                        Just to clarify, what I sent to @johnpoz were not prefixes but v6 IPs that clients on my LAN and DMZ got assigned by the respective DHCPv6 servers.

                        Here is the output line from

                        ip address
                        

                        on each network (for a single client).

                        On LAN (client 1)
                        inet6 2600:4040:a30c:8801::2d83/128 scope global dynamic

                        On DMZ (client2)
                        inet6 2600:4040:a30c:8801::23ec/128 scope global

                        I am just reading the first 16 hex characters and calling it the same prefix (not sure that's a technically sound conclusion).

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DrPhil
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                          @DrPhil they are not the "same" prefix with the /128 on them..

                          if they had a /64 on them - then they would yeah be the same network/prefix

                          a /128 in IPv6 land, is the same as a /32 in IPv4.. Its a single IP.. There is no "network" if you will. Its just that IP..

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                            DrPhil @johnpoz
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                            a /128 in IPv6 land, is the same as a /32 in IPv4.. Its a single IP.. There is no "network" if you will. Its just that IP..

                            That much I figured. What I provided are IP addresses assigned to individual client machines (one on each network).

                            I am looking at the first 16 characters on each:

                            2600:4040:a30c:8801
                            

                            They're identical. Which is why I was saying that both networks are getting the same prefix (I don't have any confidence in my observation though).

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DrPhil
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                              @DrPhil said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                              hey're identical. Which is why I was saying that both networks are getting the same prefix

                              They are not on the same network, because with a /128 there is no network.

                              Like saying 192.168.0.1/32 is on the same network as 192.168.0.2/32 - there is no network with a /128

                              Now if the mask was say /30 then those 192.168.0.x address would be on the same network, since /30 would be
                              192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.3

                              Where .0 is the wire, and 3 is the broadcast for that network.

                              if your client shows /128 on it - there is no "network"

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                                sure as a transit on the wan no problem

                                Actually, it's not a transit. It's just a target for VPNs, etc.. The transit network is through the link local address.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
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                                  @JKnott said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                                  he transit network is through the link local address.

                                  ok - its still an IP on the transit connection, be it you want to call it a loopback or whatever..

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott @DrPhil
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                                    @DrPhil said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                                    I am looking at the first 16 characters on each:

                                    2600:4040:a30c:8801
                                    They're identical. Which is why I was saying that both networks are getting the same prefix (I don't have any confidence in my observation though).

                                    With a /128, the entire address is prefix. With IPv6, the number after the / tells how many of the address bits are prefix, with the remainder being the host portion. Typically, a LAN would have a /64 prefix, the ISP can provide a range of sizes, typically /56 or /48 and a point to point link, such as a VPN can be a /127

                                    Anyway, I asked for the capture file, so that I could see what size prefix you're asking for and getting back.

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in Configure IPv6 on multiple LAN interfaces:

                                      ok - its still an IP on the transit connection, be it you want to call it a loopback or whatever..

                                      I think you're still stuck on the IPv4 way of thinking. It's just an address that identifies an interface, nothing more. Loop back is ::1. You don't have a block of loopback addresses, as on IPv4. All traffic from the WAN goes through the link local address and you don't even need a global WAN address. This is why, in another thread, I mentioned the LAN interface IPv6 address could be used for a VPN, when a WAN address isn't available. The packet comes in via the link local address and pfSense sees it's for one of it's own interfaces and handles it appropriately. The link local is usually used for routing, as a router only has to know how to reach the next hop and that can be specified with the link local address or even just the interface name, on a point to point link.

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                                        DrPhil @JKnott
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                                        @JKnott

                                        Here's what I got from the packet capture.

                                        23:43:31.108177 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 68
                                        23:43:31.114808 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 160
                                        23:43:32.110114 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 133
                                        23:43:32.116112 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 160
                                        23:43:32.177601 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:43:32.188806 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:43:33.213495 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:43:33.227805 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:43:35.178384 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:43:35.184419 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:43:39.142830 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:43:39.154548 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:43:46.871171 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:43:46.886915 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:44:01.359117 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:44:01.368737 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:44:30.227734 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:44:30.237568 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:45:27.693592 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:45:27.699768 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:47:17.062566 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:47:17.070276 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        23:49:26.790775 IP6 fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546 > ff02::1:2.547: UDP, length 52
                                        23:49:26.801422 IP6 fe80::f6b5:2ff3:fe05:71bc.547 > fe80::290:bfe:fe8c:d94a.546: UDP, length 115
                                        
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                                        • JKnottJ
                                          JKnott @DrPhil
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                                          @DrPhil

                                          No, what I need is the actual capture file, which I can then examine with Wireshark. Here's the sort of thing I'd be able to find:

                                          710165b7-9685-4535-bf12-591d88c0b293-image.png

                                          This shows I am requesting a /56 prefix and the prefix I was asking for. I'd be able to see similar for the reply from the ISP.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DrPhil
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                                            @DrPhil yeah vis posting what is in the window, download the capture and post the pcap file here.

                                            download.jpg

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