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      s_serra @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

      Removing and inserting the cable didn't work and the commands on the terminal didn't work either. What I said about having to wait an hour to get the IP address again is a lie. If you disconnect the power and turn it back on, you will immediately get the address and you will have internet again.

      I was on D1 and now I changed to D2 and the problem no longer seems to happen. But I needed to have pfsense connected directly to the ONT since pfsense and the router are in very distant locations.

      The IP obtained through DHCP is the same

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        s_serra @s_serra
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        @s_serra

        In D2 the DHCP logs are:

        Screenshot 2024-01-16 223837.png

        Everything is working perfectly but I needed pfsense connected directly to the ONT.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Ah so both pfSense and the ISP router are pulling IPs from the ISP in the D1 setup. That's not normally allowed, an ISP would usually only provide one IP address.

          Why do you need pfSense connected to the ONT directly?

          Why do you need the ISP router at all?

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            s_serra @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10

            For two reasons. The ISP's router and the other router will be in distant locations and they didn't want to have both connected as the distance is too far. I will have two networks, one for the servers and one for home. I need ISP's router because of IGMP and VOIP.

            I tried turning off the ISP's router, leaving only pfsense on and even then, after a while, pfsense no longer has an IP address.

            A user from my ISP made a tutorial on how to use pfsense connected directly to the ONT but it is in Portuguese.

            https://forum.meo.pt/internet-fixa-e-movel-11/tutorial-pfsense-87365

            An interesting point. In D1 without the ISP router (and without a switch, a test to see if it could be the switch but that wasn't the problem), that is, the RJ45 cable connected directly from the ont to the pfsense, I restarted the pfsense normally without turning off the power and the pfsense after the reboot does not pick up IP but if I remove the power cable and return Putting it on immediately and pfsense boots much faster.

            The only problem that I am detecting could be that the vlan is directly associated with the wan port and could be causing some conflict but it is just an assumption since without the vlan with the bridge option on the ISP router it always works without problems.

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              s_serra @s_serra
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              @s_serra

              It doesn't seem to be from my ISP's DHCP server. pfsense has now been on for about 45 minutes and has made the IP renewal request twice without a problem. Here he got the IP address and after about 5 minutes it stopped showing.

              I then removed the power cord and got the address again at 11:05.

              Screenshot 2024-01-17 110845.png

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                @s_serra said in DHCP Vlan ISP:

                https://forum.meo.pt/internet-fixa-e-movel-11/tutorial-pfsense-87365

                Hmm, nothing complex in that tutorial. Just the VLAN required. Or at least it was in 2016!

                The behaviour you're observing though seems to imply the ISP router s doing something more that pfSense is not.

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                  s_serra @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  I changed the inputs, lan to wan and wan to lan and so far I've had almost 3 hours with the internet always working. The port that was on the wan that I must now use on the lan does not seem to be causing problems on the local network.

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                    s_serra @s_serra
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                    @s_serra

                    How can I be sure the problem is with the port?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Well if the only change you made was to switch the NIC assignments that seems like a fair conclusion.

                      Are the NICs actually identical? Same device IDs in pciconf -lv?

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                        s_serra @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        Yes, I think the nics are the same. It's a nuc with nics built into the motherboard.

                        hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:	class=0x060000 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f00 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f31
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series SoC Transaction Register'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = HOST-PCI
                        vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0:	class=0x030000 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f31 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f31
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display'
                            class      = display
                            subclass   = VGA
                        atapci0@pci0:0:19:0:	class=0x01018a rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f21 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f21
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800 Series SATA IDE Controller'
                            class      = mass storage
                            subclass   = ATA
                        xhci0@pci0:0:20:0:	class=0x0c0330 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f35 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f35
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx, Celeron N2000 Series USB xHCI'
                            class      = serial bus
                            subclass   = USB
                        none0@pci0:0:26:0:	class=0x108000 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f18 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f18
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine'
                            class      = encrypt/decrypt
                        pcib1@pci0:0:28:0:	class=0x060400 rev=0x0e hdr=0x01 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f48 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f48
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 1'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = PCI-PCI
                        pcib2@pci0:0:28:1:	class=0x060400 rev=0x0e hdr=0x01 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f4a subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f4a
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 2'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = PCI-PCI
                        pcib3@pci0:0:28:2:	class=0x060400 rev=0x0e hdr=0x01 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f4c subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f4c
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 3'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = PCI-PCI
                        pcib4@pci0:0:28:3:	class=0x060400 rev=0x0e hdr=0x01 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f4e subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f4e
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 4'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = PCI-PCI
                        ehci0@pci0:0:29:0:	class=0x0c0320 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f34 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f34
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series USB EHCI'
                            class      = serial bus
                            subclass   = USB
                        isab0@pci0:0:31:0:	class=0x060100 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f1c subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f1c
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Power Control Unit'
                            class      = bridge
                            subclass   = PCI-ISA
                        ichsmb0@pci0:0:31:3:	class=0x0c0500 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x0f12 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0f12
                            vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                            device     = 'Atom Processor E3800/CE2700 Series SMBus Controller'
                            class      = serial bus
                            subclass   = SMBus
                        re0@pci0:3:0:0:	class=0x020000 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x10ec device=0x8168 subvendor=0x10ec subdevice=0x8168
                            vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.'
                            device     = 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
                            class      = network
                            subclass   = ethernet
                        re1@pci0:4:0:0:	class=0x020000 rev=0x06 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x10ec device=0x8168 subvendor=0x10ec subdevice=0x8168
                            vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.'
                            device     = 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
                            class      = network
                            subclass   = ethernet
                        
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Yup seems identical at that end at least. They could have different PHYs potentially. Hard to say why it should behave differently.

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                            s_serra @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

                            Thanks a lot for the help.

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                              s_serra @s_serra
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