3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days
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Are there any drop in replacements for 3100 in the making?
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@netplumbers said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:
when is a realistic last responsible moment to target to retiring the 3100
Yes, it's hard to put a fixed date on that but I run a 3100 here and am looking at replacing it when the next release happens which should be 24.03. Before then if there's an issue that requires a point release we can rebuild against the current branch. As mentioned we usually back port patches for some time so really it would be acceptable to run a 3100 until a vulnerability is discovered after 24.03 is released that cannot be patched at runtime IMO.
Steve
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@jimp I have a 3100 I was going to put up on ebay, but with this news I am reluctant to put it up for sale a when I know it ill not receive updates. I can not in good conscience sell it. I would rather give it back to Netgate for recycling/lab use. Is this possible?
Dan
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With the 4200 now available for pre-order, I'm assuming this would be the most logical unit to replace my EOL 3100?
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@gweempose In terms of specs/capability the 2100 is a step down and the 4200 a step up. What’s your use case, bandwidth, packages, VPN, etc.?
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@SteveITS I get over a gig down from my cable company, and I have a 2.5 Gbps network, so I definitely want something that can take full advantage of that. I don't currently use a VPN on my router, but that seems like something that could come in handy. I also don't currently run any packages, although there are a few I find intriguing.
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@gweempose With that speed, definitely the 4200. The 2100 won't get to a gig.
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Yup the 4200 is a big step up from the 3100 but you would need that for 2.5G internal routing.
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@SteveITS said:
@gweempose With that speed, definitely the 4200. The 2100 won't get to a gig.
@stephenw10 said:
Yup the 4200 is a big step up from the 3100 but you would need that for 2.5G internal routing.
Thanks for the responses, guys! I ended up pre-ordering the 4200. It may be overkill for my current needs, but it should future-proof my network, at least for a while.
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Hello,
Does it mean that the 3100 will be updated again with FreeBSD 15 ?
HEADS UP: FreeBSD is stopping all 32-bit Hardware support except ARMv7Thank you.
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It's supported by current 24.03-dev snapshots.
24.03-DEVELOPMENT (arm) built on Thu Feb 15 6:00:00 GMT 2024 FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENTThere may be some packages that no longer build.
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While they have not fully dropped support yet, FreeBSD degraded ARMv7 from a Tier 1 to a Tier 2 architecture, meaning it's more of a "best effort" / "if it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't" sort of situation.
It's only going to get more and more broken as time goes on until it's fully dropped.
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Since this is the most helpful 3100 topic I found I'll add an April 2024 update to it:
From the 24.03 release notes
Netgate 3100 (32-Bit ARM) Limitations
Support for the EOL Netgate 3100 device architecture, armv7, is being phased out upstream in FreeBSD. While this release still contains base system functionality for the Netgate 3100, several packages are unavailable as they can no longer build for that architecture. The list of packages unavailable for the Netgate 3100 now also includes Suricata, Squid, and squidGuard.Users who wish to continue using those packages on a Netgate 3100 should not upgrade to this release.
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I'm on the fence swapping for 2100 vs 4200.
Our 3100 is generally sitting at around 20-30% CPU, memory and MBUF usage most of the time.
Downgrading might be risky and upgrading might be a big overkill.
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@adamw Bandwidth is a big one...the 2100 maxes out around 600 Mbps or thereabouts, without packages.
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I sold my SG-3100 and I regret that.. I miss that little device.
See, there are a lot that you can do with an EOL device, even more with a builtin switch.There is a veterinary clinic that is asking me to deploy a VPN solution, they are a small business, don't want to buy a switch, just a nobreak, few cables and the gateway.
They want to be able to access the clinic from home, check some documents, cameras, it is not anything really fancy.
So, for a 9W device, SG-3100 is king, two WANs and 4 switched ports, 24.03 firmware, enough speed for almost every small business...I wonder if there will be a SG-3200 device someday..
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I'm wondering about 3200 as well. Is it in the pipeline at all?
We use squid proxy which is no longer supported on 3100 and upgrading to 24.03 not recommended for that reason.
We can survive a couple of months but I don't want to stretch it too much.
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@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:
I'm wondering about 3200 as well. Is it in the pipeline at all?
Not that I'm aware of, I'm just a regular user..
@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:
We can survive a couple of months but I don't want to stretch it too much.
If I were in your position now, I would get a SG-4200, it will give you a lot of time don't thinking in upgrade..
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Any idea about EOL dates for 2100 and 4200?
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@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:
4200
The MAX version was presented 3 weeks ago ....
Not sure they already know when it stops before it begins ^^
