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      kilasin @Gblenn
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      Ya i figured that much !! i just connected my VM directly to my machine to get those speeds but i saw the switch doesnt give out the ips to ther ports lol but in any case i knwo for a fact now pfsense can do 2G which is great i just need to either make my RTL Card working or wait for the one i jsut ordered

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        Gblenn @kilasin
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        @kilasin said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

        @Gblenn

        Ya i figured that much !! i just connected my VM directly to my machine to get those speeds but i saw the switch doesnt give out the ips to ther ports lol but in any case i knwo for a fact now pfsense can do 2G which is great i just need to either make my RTL Card working or wait for the one i jsut ordered

        You will get IP on the other ports as soon as you connect the LAN port from pfsense into e.g. port 1.
        It's a good thing you did not get IP without this, since it proves that ports 9 and 10 are isolated.

        So now you have proven that you can get 2.5G internet, but the bummer is that you only have two switch ports capable of such speeds, and they are now busy on the WAN side.

        If you really want to continue investigating 10G networking, I would suggest you look for a new and bigger switch capable of 10G on all ports. Or perhaps you set the limit at a more reasonable 2.5G which will not cost you an arm and a leg. Even if you get it working with pfsense directly on 2.5G, you can still only connect one device on 10G. So even if your Unraid server is at 10G, you can't do much on 10G anyway.
        Your PC will be connected to one of the 1G ports so file transfer is limited by that.

        I have seen that Qnap have switches that are reasonably priced which can to 2.5G or 2.5/10G.

        To be honest, it's pretty much impossible to make any real use of 10G in a home lab scenario. It's fun playing around and learning of course, and file transfers to/from NAS will be quick. But they are typically limited by disk transfer speeds anyway, unless you go for expensive SSD's.
        The only WAN application that I have found being able to reach significant speeds are game downloads from Steam or Blizzard which I have seen reaching up to 3 Gbit sometimes.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kilasin
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          @kilasin said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

          I tried installing the RTL card drivers but to no avail i cannot see it when i do the kldstat

          Do you see the loader lines in loader.conf.local?

          You should be the module being loaded before the kernel starts if you have the console output.

          You could save a port on the switch by using VLANs in dot1Q mode instead of port-vlan mode. But it would mean a more complex setup in pfSense.

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            kilasin @Gblenn
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            @Gblenn

            Ya i use it for my own business and then for my steam cache which i wanted to use on 10G but this is great to be honest and ya another switch might be in order to be honest but this has been awesome to learn i really cannot thank you guys enough ...

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              kilasin @stephenw10
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              5256676c-61a7-4459-b7a4-ecef964dc050-image.png using this command " ee /boot/loader.conf.local "

              I see a different lines command when using this
              command "ee /boot/loader.conf

              608a56bf-f660-4544-a349-94f83eff09d6-image.png

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                Gblenn @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

                You could save a port on the switch by using VLANs in dot1Q mode instead of port-vlan mode. But it would mean a more complex setup in pfSense.

                How would you do that? He only has one switch and there are only two ports on that switch capable of 2.5/10G. One of the ports is connected to ONT and the other to WAN on pfsense. The only purpose of which is to convert 2.5G to 10G towards pfsense since that NIC couldn't negotiate 2.5.

                I can't really se any way where he could use one of those switch ports for anything else??

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                  Gblenn @Gblenn
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                  @stephenw10 said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

                  You could save a port on the switch by using VLANs in dot1Q mode instead of port-vlan mode. But it would mean a more complex setup in pfSense.

                  How would you do that? He only has one switch and there are only two ports on that switch capable of 2.5/10G. One of the ports is connected to ONT and the other to WAN on pfsense. The only purpose of which is to convert 2.5G to 10G towards pfsense since that NIC couldn't negotiate 2.5.

                  I can't really se any way where he could use one of those switch ports for anything else??

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                    kilasin @Gblenn
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                    @Gblenn

                    it is good to learn how it would, to be honest for someone who might not be able to and is a noob like me. I am small business owner and well im the IT team / Marketing/Sales and what not in 1 so learning all this stuff is good for me and to someone else caught in the same predictament as me..

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      You should remove or comment out those lines you added to loader.conf.

                      The loader.conf.local file has priority and doesn't get overwritten by the system. It looks like you missed the leading / there. The line should be:
                      if_re_name="/boot/modules/if_re.ko"

                      In dot1q VLAN mode you would only need one link to pfSense from the switch. You would use VLANs to separate the WAN and LAN traffic in pfSense and send all of that over the one 10G to the switch.

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                        kilasin @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        ok i did that .. i still cant see it when i do kldstat

                        hmmm i might be doing somethin really wrong here

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                          kilasin @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10

                          Regarding this

                          @stephenw10 said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

                          In dot1q VLAN mode you would only need one link to pfSense from the switch. You would use VLANs to separate the WAN and LAN traffic in pfSense and send all of that over the one 10G to the switch.

                          Essentially do the splitting in PFsense and having 1 free port from the 10G if im correct. The ONT would become also a LAN in PFsense but it would seperate it if understand that correctly from the pfSense side not the switch side and then take lets say port 10 out of the WAN side in the switch leavcing port 9 to do both WAN and LAN i think.

                          BTW i order an intel 225i card but i am determined to make this rtl work eventually just for my knowledge point of view

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Do you see the module present in /boot/modules?

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                              kilasin @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10

                              i do not. I guess perhaps it is not saving it ?however, when i got into pfsense web interface and check under there i can see it

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                                Gblenn @kilasin
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                                @kilasin said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

                                @stephenw10

                                Regarding this

                                @stephenw10 said in Trouble with WAN not being able to get correct speed:

                                In dot1q VLAN mode you would only need one link to pfSense from the switch. You would use VLANs to separate the WAN and LAN traffic in pfSense and send all of that over the one 10G to the switch.

                                Essentially do the splitting in PFsense and having 1 free port from the 10G if im correct. The ONT would become also a LAN in PFsense but it would seperate it if understand that correctly from the pfSense side not the switch side and then take lets say port 10 out of the WAN side in the switch leavcing port 9 to do both WAN and LAN i think.

                                BTW i order an intel 225i card but i am determined to make this rtl work eventually just for my knowledge point of view

                                I agree you can "save a port" but you still can't get around the physical connections and limit of two 10G switch ports...
                                You have one cable from ONT, and it will only negotiate correctly in ports 9 or 10 on the switch. And even when putting both LAN and WAN on port 10, you still can't get more than 1G on the network on the LAN side, since all other ports are 1G...

                                [EDIT] Is there some strange formatting going on in this and the previous post that I made? I can't see the text that should read:
                                In dot1q VLAN mode you would only need one link to pfSense from the switch. You would use VLANs to separate the WAN and LAN traffic in pfSense and send all of that over the one 10G to the switch.

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                                  kilasin @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10

                                  So after messing around it was the package install i was instalin wrong package ideleted everythign started from scratch with the 198 package and boom it works ahhhh lol lol feels awesome to finally get this done this way.....

                                  Thank you for all your help!!!

                                  @Gblenn

                                  Thank you for your help as well!!!

                                  Best Regards
                                  Art

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                                    Gblenn @kilasin
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                                    @kilasin Excellent so now you can revert your VLAN settings and use the switch as you did before, and still get 2.5 G internet, congrats!

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      You mean in Diag > Edit?

                                      I expect to see something like:

                                      [24.03-DEVELOPMENT][admin@apu.stevew.lan]/root: ls -ls /boot/modules/
                                      total 1268
                                       112 -r--r--r--  1 root wheel  111576 Dec 15 07:02 bwi_v3_ucode.ko
                                      1152 -r--r--r--  1 root wheel 1134992 Jan 14 20:41 if_re.ko
                                         4 -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel     116 Feb  1 19:37 linker.hints
                                      
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                                        kilasin @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10

                                        I basically started from scratch .. reinstalled the package but this time i got the 198 package instead of the 197 ... then when i want to edit the conf file everything was already there except i put a space before the forward slash here{ if_re_name=" /boot/modules/if_re.ko" } then rebooted the whole thing and did the kldstat and it worked i saw it then went into the webgui and lord and behold it popped up then just redid my assignments and now everything is working lovely lol lol WOOT WOOT!!!! I seriously could not have done this without both of you @stephenw10 and @Gblenn

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Nice 👍

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