Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Completely confused by DNS failure (dnsmasq)

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved DHCP and DNS
    dnsdnsmasq
    19 Posts 4 Posters 1.8k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NickJH
      last edited by johnpoz

      @NickJH said in Completely confused by DNS failure (dnsmasq):

      response packets at the pfSense WAN interface.

      But what response - what should it respond with for sia2.howitts.co.uk?

      I don't see A response.. A response would look like this.

          192.168.9.100.49907 > 192.168.9.253.53: 64979+ [1au] A? nas.home.arpa. (54)
          192.168.9.253.53 > 192.168.9.100.49907: 64979* 1/0/1 nas.home.arpa. A 192.168.9.10 (58)
      

      This is not a valid response
      15:59:39.895289 IP 192.168.1.1.53 > 192.168.1.4.63611: 2* 0/0/0 (36)

      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
      Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
      SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • S
        SteveITS Galactic Empire @NickJH
        last edited by

        @NickJH The "Enable Forwarding Mode" forwards anything that isn't a host or domain override.

        @NickJH said in Completely confused by DNS failure (dnsmasq):

        can I bulk load hosts into pfSense?

        I don't think so but you can put it in the config file and then restore just the DNS Resolver config.

        @johnpoz "The [upstream] firewall itself has host file entries for machines like Sia2 "

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

        johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
          last edited by johnpoz

          @SteveITS said in Completely confused by DNS failure (dnsmasq):

          @johnpoz "The [upstream] firewall itself has host file entries for machines like Sia2 "

          It didn't send them, unless you edited the response.

          edit: oh I see you did some more posts... Pretty sure sure dnsmasq also does rebind protection.. When you forward a rfc1918 response is not going to be returned to the client.. Unless you have turned off rebind or have setup a domain to be private and allowed to return rfc1918

          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/services/dns/rebinding.html

          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
          SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

          S C 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • S
            SteveITS Galactic Empire @johnpoz
            last edited by

            @johnpoz said in Completely confused by DNS failure (dnsmasq):

            When you forward a rfc1918 response is not going to be returned to the client

            Ah yes there it is.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • N
              NickJH
              last edited by

              Yes, it could be rebind protection as I expect it to return a private IP (172.17.2.51). It is late here so I'll have a look in the morning.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • N
                NickJH
                last edited by NickJH

                I can confirm it was rebind protection causing it. I have disabled it and am using the the DNS Resolver successfully in forwarder mode. Thanks.

                johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NickJH
                  last edited by

                  @NickJH dig you disable it globally? I would suggest just setting your domain your forwarding for and want rfc1918 vs turning it completely off.

                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                  SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                  N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • N
                    NickJH @johnpoz
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz Yes I did it globally. I don't know how to do it by domain only, but it does not matter as pfSense is on my LAN for testing/learning. When I deploy it properly, I'll be turning it back on. It is just that it was interfering with my testing.

                    S johnpozJ 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • S
                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @NickJH
                      last edited by

                      @NickJH for reference it’s on that doc page:

                      “To exclude a domain from DNS rebinding protection, use the Custom Options box in the DNS resolver settings. Enter one domain per line in the following format, preceded by the server: line.

                      server:
                      private-domain: "example.com"
                      private-domain: "dnsbl.example"
                      “

                      I just forget about this “feature” because it’s rarely needed, but we had to discover/use it ourselves 10 years ago.

                      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NickJH
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @NickJH how to do that was right in the link I posted..

                        For both unbound and dnsmasq

                        I take it you didn't read past the "This behavior is controlled by the DNS Rebind Check option under System > Advanced, Admin Access tab." part ;)

                        An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                        If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                        Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                        SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                        N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • N
                          NickJH @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz All I needed was a quick and dirty fix because it is not going to be the production set up. I did the fix late yesterday but it was about 10pm and if the quick and dirty was going to fix it, it was good enough for me. I only tested it this morning.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • C
                            cb831 @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz Thanks for this I have been through the same debugging process as @NickJH. The documentation for DNS forwarder says "To exclude a domain from DNS rebinding protection, use the DNS forwarder Advanced Settings box as follows:" - It should be "...Custom Settings".

                            S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • S
                              SteveITS Galactic Empire @cb831
                              last edited by

                              @cb831 There's a "Give Feedback" link at the top of each doc page. It probably got renamed at some point.

                              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

                              johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @SteveITS yeah I would highly doubt there has been much work on the forwarder (dnsmasq) in quite some time to be honest. I am surprised that anyone would still be using it to be honest.. I mean it can do some things unbound can't like forward to multiple NS as the same time, etc.

                                But if you can't figure out that the custom options box is what they were talking about - not sure what to tell you ;)

                                Now if there was 2 boxes, one labeled advanced, and the other custom - and putting it in advanced didn't work because they called out the wrong box - yeah that could be problematic.. But there is only one possible place such commands could be put into that gui form.

                                An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                                SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.