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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yes, exactly I don't expect to just get hung up in the interface/network like that. You certainly can end up with a lot of script 'churn' when an interface drops out. Especially if there are other interfaces on it like VPNs etc. But it will stop after a few minutes unless the interface changes again.

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      • bmeeksB
        bmeeks @michmoor
        last edited by bmeeks

        @michmoor said in DNS/DHCP stop working suddenly:

        @stephenw10
        When @cyberconsultants mentioned suricata i did immediately go to my service watchdog and I have the following enabled.

        2a81fa14-6f7f-47e7-94b9-1fb1f9ac5b1b-image.png

        This is a set up Ive had for years now. I don't mind removing these services from monitoring but i don't see how it prevented a reboot. Ive upgraded/rebooted many times with these enabled.

        edit: I would also say that its likely something environmentally changed here but I have no idea what it could be. Short of adding a firewall rule, the config is static. Goes down for an upgrade every few months. So whatever is causing a cascade of headaches for me (love the term) its proving difficult to isolate.

        One of the issues with Service Watchdog is that the package is not super smart. It simply looks for the presence or absence of the monitored daemon, and sends it a start command if missing. Lots of things can result in normal restarts of certain daemons -- unbound being one of those daemons. Consider this scenario:

        unbound can be normally restarted by several things:

        1. If you have DHCP hostname registration enabled (most don't, but if you do) it will restart unbound each time a DHCP lease renews. But Service Watchdog is not aware of that. It will simply blindly see unbound not running at the instant it checks and then send it a restart command without knowing the service is already in the middle of restarting.

        2. A temporary issue with your WAN (packet loss, for example) might trigger a gateway alarm. If that deteriorates into a down condition, pfSense will issue a command to restart a bunch of processes including unbound. Again, Service Watchdog is ignorant of this process. It will see unbound missing from the list of running daemons when it spot checks, and thus issue a restart command. But pfSense itself is already restarting unbound. That can lead to problems.

        3. If you run pfBlockerNG, it can also issue restart commands to unbound in some update scenarios. Service Watchdog is ignorant of this process as well, and will just blindly issue a restart command when it fails to see a running unbound daemon.

        So, looking at the scenarios above you can see that it would be possible for bad things to happen if two unbound instances are trying to both start simultaneously. And whether or not this might occur would be random as it would depend on the exact timing differences between the natural restart process and when Service Watchdog sends it own independent restart signal.

        As @stephenw10 mentioned, Service Watchdog is really only intended for use when debugging a problem or working around some known issue. It is not a great solution for routine monitoring - especially monitoring of processes that can be restarted for legitimate reasons. This is why I preach to never use it with the IDS/IPS packages. Service Watchdog just does not consider if a service is legitimately restarting and thus the missing daemon instance is expected (and to be fair, it can't know this). It just says "no daemon present at this instant, so restart!".

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @tinfoilmatt
          last edited by michmoor

          @cyberconsultants @stephenw10

          Well lets dissect this a bit then. As far as Gateway actions are concerned its disabled. Has been for a while
          49dd2964-647c-4edd-82c6-f968eeb5605b-image.png

          So if the trigger is my WAN address releasing/renewing an address why all of a sudden?

          Based on the alerts from monitoring this problem started at 12:47am ET. Lets review what i could dig up in graylog.

          81b8d136-dcba-4d6f-9877-42e734f4556f-image.png

          Ping monitors to my WAN address also fail at this time. So the WAN address was not accessible.

          92280c32-03e6-4fa7-b7e1-2bf688cb5464-image.png

          During this time the filterlog still shows traffic inbound to my old IP so i am inferring that traffic was still making it into the firewall. In fact traffic continues to come inbound until 2:47:58am ET where there is a dhclient process starting which of course is the DHCP call out on the WAN.

          The link flaps a few times
          38ae9d8c-44fe-4c92-af52-451ce0ee018e-image.png

          Thats when things crap the bed and no more inbound flows

          timestamp	source	message
          2024-03-07T01:01:00.000-05:00	php-cgi[67141]:	php-cgi[67141]: rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
          2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[32095]: ix3 link state up -> down
          2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 06[KNL] 162.193.210.96 disappeared from ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
          2024-03-07T02:36:49.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:36:49.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:53.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #55 ix3, 162.193.210.96#123, interface stats: received=1173, sent=1257, dropped=0, active_time=127360 secs
          2024-03-07T02:36:55.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:36:55.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
          2024-03-07T02:36:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:36:57.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:36:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:36:59.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:01.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:05.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:09.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
          2024-03-07T02:37:10.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
          2024-03-07T02:37:11.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
          2024-03-07T02:37:13.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
          2024-03-07T02:37:17.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
          2024-03-07T02:37:23.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
          2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
          2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state up -> down
          2024-03-07T02:37:31.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
          2024-03-07T02:37:46.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
          2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
          2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state down -> up
          2024-03-07T02:37:52.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
          2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
          2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state up -> down
          2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
          2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state down -> up
          2024-03-07T02:37:59.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:00.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:01.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:03.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:06.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:06.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
          2024-03-07T02:38:13.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
          2024-03-07T02:38:17.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
          2024-03-07T02:38:18.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
          2024-03-07T02:38:19.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
          2024-03-07T02:38:20.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
          2024-03-07T02:38:22.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
          2024-03-07T02:38:24.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[89711]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[87947]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[87082]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[86571]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[85955]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[85320]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[84415]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:27.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
          2024-03-07T02:38:27.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
          2024-03-07T02:38:29.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 58 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
          2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
          2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 disappeared from ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #58 ix3, 192.168.1.94#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=4, active_time=5 secs
          2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:35.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:38:35.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[42980]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[40764]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[39766]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[38095]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[37026]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[35894]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[34295]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[28646]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:37.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
          2024-03-07T02:38:37.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
          2024-03-07T02:38:39.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 59 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
          2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
          2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 08[KNL] 192.168.1.94 disappeared from ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #59 ix3, 192.168.1.94#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=4, active_time=5 secs
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 10[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[25149]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[23218]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[22332]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[20657]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[19212]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[17977]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[15786]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
          2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[8968]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
          2024-03-07T02:38:46.000-05:00	php-fpm[19319]:	php-fpm[19319]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
          2024-03-07T02:38:46.000-05:00	php-fpm[19319]:	php-fpm[19319]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
          2024-03-07T02:38:48.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 60 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
          2024-03-07T02:38:57.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
          2024-03-07T02:38:57.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:38:58.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
          2024-03-07T02:39:00.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[8968]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 192.168.1.254 port 67
          

          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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          • M
            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
            last edited by

            Its highly likely that multiple scenrios are happening that are negatively impacting.
            Watchdog is no longer monitoring any service

            Its probable that something did occur that caused the firewall to be inaccessible from the LAN side and may be related to the watchdog process and restarting unbound. Suricata was never part of the watchdog daemon monitoring.

            That said, i will just have to wait to see if this happens again.
            I appreciate everyone chiming in on this one.

            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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            • tinfoilmattT
              tinfoilmatt @michmoor
              last edited by

              @michmoor said in DNS/DHCP stop working suddenly:

              Based on the alerts from monitoring this problem started at 12:47am ET. Lets review what i could dig up in graylog.

              81b8d136-dcba-4d6f-9877-42e734f4556f-image.png

              Ping monitors to my WAN address also fail at this time. So the WAN address was not accessible.

              92280c32-03e6-4fa7-b7e1-2bf688cb5464-image.png

              During this time the filterlog still shows traffic inbound to my old IP so i am inferring that traffic was still making it into the firewall. In fact traffic continues to come inbound until 2:47:58am ET where there is a dhclient process starting which of course is the DHCP call out on the WAN.

              The link flaps a few times
              38ae9d8c-44fe-4c92-af52-451ce0ee018e-image.png

              Thats when things crap the bed and no more inbound flows

              timestamp	source	message
              2024-03-07T01:01:00.000-05:00	php-cgi[67141]:	php-cgi[67141]: rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
              2024-03-07T02:36:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[32095]: ix3 link state up -> down
              2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 06[KNL] 162.193.210.96 disappeared from ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:47.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
              2024-03-07T02:36:49.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:36:49.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:53.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #55 ix3, 162.193.210.96#123, interface stats: received=1173, sent=1257, dropped=0, active_time=127360 secs
              2024-03-07T02:36:55.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:36:55.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
              2024-03-07T02:36:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:36:57.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:36:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:36:59.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:01.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:05.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:09.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
              2024-03-07T02:37:10.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
              2024-03-07T02:37:11.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
              2024-03-07T02:37:13.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
              2024-03-07T02:37:17.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
              2024-03-07T02:37:23.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
              2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
              2024-03-07T02:37:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state up -> down
              2024-03-07T02:37:31.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
              2024-03-07T02:37:46.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
              2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
              2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:50.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state down -> up
              2024-03-07T02:37:52.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to DOWN
              2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
              2024-03-07T02:37:56.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state up -> down
              2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: Linkup starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	kernel:	kernel: ix3: link state changed to UP
              2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:37:58.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: ix3 link state down -> up
              2024-03-07T02:37:59.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:00.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:01.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:03.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:06.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:06.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
              2024-03-07T02:38:13.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
              2024-03-07T02:38:17.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
              2024-03-07T02:38:18.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
              2024-03-07T02:38:19.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
              2024-03-07T02:38:20.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
              2024-03-07T02:38:22.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
              2024-03-07T02:38:24.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPDISCOVER on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[89711]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[87947]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[87082]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[86571]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[85955]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[85320]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[84415]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:26.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[14415]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:27.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
              2024-03-07T02:38:27.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
              2024-03-07T02:38:29.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 58 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
              2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
              2024-03-07T02:38:31.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 disappeared from ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #58 ix3, 192.168.1.94#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=4, active_time=5 secs
              2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:38:34.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:35.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:38:35.000-05:00	php-fpm[78999]:	php-fpm[78999]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 01[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[42980]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[40764]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[39766]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[38095]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[37026]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[35894]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[34295]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:36.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[28646]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:37.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
              2024-03-07T02:38:37.000-05:00	php-fpm[5633]:	php-fpm[5633]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
              2024-03-07T02:38:39.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 59 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
              2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Failed to get IP for interface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	miniupnpd[92455]:	miniupnpd[92455]: Cannot get IP address for ext interface ix3. Network is down
              2024-03-07T02:38:41.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 08[KNL] 192.168.1.94 disappeared from ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:44.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Deleting interface #59 ix3, 192.168.1.94#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=4, active_time=5 secs
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	check_reload_status[460]:	check_reload_status[460]: rc.newwanip starting ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	charon[71782]:	charon[71782]: 10[KNL] 192.168.1.94 appeared on ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[25149]: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.1.254 -iface ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[23218]: Adding new routes to interface: ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[22332]: New Routers (ix3): 192.168.1.254
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[20657]: New Broadcast Address (ix3): 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[19212]: New Subnet Mask (ix3): 255.255.255.0
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[17977]: New IP Address (ix3): 192.168.1.94
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[15786]: ifconfig ix3 inet 192.168.1.94 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
              2024-03-07T02:38:45.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[8968]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
              2024-03-07T02:38:46.000-05:00	php-fpm[19319]:	php-fpm[19319]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.1.94) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: ix3).
              2024-03-07T02:38:46.000-05:00	php-fpm[19319]:	php-fpm[19319]: /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ix3.
              2024-03-07T02:38:48.000-05:00	ntpd[86868]:	ntpd[86868]: Listen normally on 60 ix3 192.168.1.94:123
              2024-03-07T02:38:57.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com) There was an error trying to determine the public IP for interface - wan (ix3 ).
              2024-03-07T02:38:57.000-05:00	php-fpm[93379]:	php-fpm[93379]: /rc.dyndns.update: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:38:58.000-05:00	php-fpm[44338]:	php-fpm[44338]: /rc.newwanip: Dynamic DNS (vpn.networkingtitan.com): running get_failover_interface for wan. found ix3
              2024-03-07T02:39:00.000-05:00	GAFW	GAFW dhclient[8968]: DHCPREQUEST on ix3 to 192.168.1.254 port 67
              

              based on some of that timestamping and behavior, ISP maintenance seems within the realm of possibilites, too (if you haven't already confirmed or not with them).

              again, it's the outage that casues the cascade of restarts/retries/timeout-counters counting/etc., etc. disabling gateway monitoring action doesn't mean that other processes/services and packages won't still 'react' to a link going down.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Mmm, can you try a switch between the WAN and the modem so it never actually loses link?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ok try running this from the console when it stops responding:

                  dtrace -n 'fbt::_task_fn_rx:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_tx:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_iov:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_admin:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_rx_watchdog:entry'
                  

                  One of those things is probably stuck and firing off numerous times.

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                  • M
                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10
                    Got it. Lets hope it doesnt happen 😧

                    Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                    • M
                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10
                      It happened again. Got the trace for you.

                       dtrace -n 'fbt::_task_fn_rx:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_tx:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_iov:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_admin:entry' -n 'fbt::_task_fn_rx_watchdog:entry'
                      dtrace: description 'fbt::_task_fn_rx:entry' matched 1 probe
                      dtrace: description 'fbt::_task_fn_tx:entry' matched 1 probe
                      dtrace: description 'fbt::_task_fn_iov:entry' matched 1 probe
                      dtrace: description 'fbt::_task_fn_admin:entry' matched 1 probe
                      dtrace: description 'fbt::_task_fn_rx_watchdog:entry' matched 1 probe
                      CPU     ID                    FUNCTION:NAME
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        3  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        3  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        3  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        2  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25033                _task_fn_tx:entry
                        1  25031                _task_fn_rx:entry
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                      dtrace: processing aborted: Abort due to systemic unresponsiveness
                      
                      

                      Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Hmm, I'll point that at out devs but as I understand it that's the normal output. 🤔

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
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                          @stephenw10
                          Thanks. Seeing how the dtrace stopped no more than 15s into it due to the high load.."dtrace: processing aborted: Abort due to systemic unresponsiveness"

                          Let me know what you hear back and what further traces i can run.
                          Watch it be something so ridiculous..

                          edit: checked syslogs afterward. Nothing out of the ordinary was happening. Anything related to ix3 (WAN) previously did not show up here. I was not home at the time so this was just a spontaneous event without me logging in or performing any administrative action.

                          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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                            @stephenw10
                            Happened again a few hours later.

                            Only difference is that kernel{if_io_tqg_3}] is now kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]

                            dtrace was the same and stopped abruptly.

                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                              A Former User @michmoor
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                              @michmoor

                              You may have an ISP line problem. Something like that happened to me about a year ago. It turned out that the old external coax line was really bad. pfSense did not handle those short and frequent outages too well. My old ASUS router was better at it. Initially I thought that my new NETGATE box was failing completely, but no. It was actually working but very, very slowly. It was taking 3-4 minutes to log into the Web UI and the Internet download speed was 2-3 Mb/s. I think I would be a good idea to check the internal Internet line first and, if that’s fine, ask the ISP to check the external line.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @michmoor
                                last edited by

                                @michmoor said in DNS/DHCP stop working suddenly:

                                Seeing how the dtrace stopped no more than 15s into it due to the high load.."dtrace: processing aborted: Abort due to systemic unresponsiveness"

                                Ah sorry I completely missed that. That's obviously not normal!

                                Seeing the load on a different task queue is probably just coincidence.

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  Could we be looking at something corrupted in the firmware? Would a re-install be a pathway here to resolving this?

                                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    You could try that but it doesn't look like that to me. A damaged filesystem would almost certainly fail immediately.

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                      last edited by michmoor

                                      @stephenw10
                                      Incident just happened about an hour ago.
                                      Ive checked each interface and there was no sudden sharp increase in bandwidth so this doesn't seem to be traffic-related.

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                                      I think....I may have found something very interesting and to your point traffic related....
                                      Restricted vlan is time based. It is not available yet.... that's a lot of packets being processed? how?

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                                      Assuming the RRD graphs are accurate in terms of counting, the Restricted VLAN is the only vlan with millions of packets being recorded even compared to the WAN which doesn't register that many packets.

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                                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Hmm, I think that's actually milli-packets per second not millions. Compared to the in-block value it's very low on the graph.

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                                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                          Update

                                          Moving the WAN connection from IX3 to IX1 i continued to have the firewall lock up.
                                          Moving the internet connectivity to the igc* interface seems to have resolved the issue. pfSense has remained stable with no lockups.
                                          IX and IGC are different nics on the 6100.
                                          At first, this may seem like perhaps a failing ix* nic card. That's what i thought. Why else does everything work great on the igc nics?
                                          As a test, i found another PC and connected it directly to ix3. Ran a series of speedtests daily. pfSense hasnt locked up at all.

                                          The physical connectivity had the ATT Cable modem directly attached to ix3. No patch panel, no switch. The connectivity today is the same except its directly connected to an igc interface.
                                          The only conclusion that i can reach is that for some odd reason, there is something strange taking place on the wire between the modem and pfsense ix* interface which causes the system to freak out and lock up. The cable modem is directly connected to igc* and its normal operation.

                                          I cant explain this odd behavior. I appreciate everyones input. @stephenw10 appreciate the additional assistance out of band..

                                          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Hmm, yeah that's odd. You also tested with a switch on the WAN side between the IX NIC and modem?

                                            And you are still using the IX NICs internally?

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