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    Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?

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    • maverickwsM
      maverickws @Gertjan
      last edited by

      Definitely
      Apart from the DNS resolution issue, everything else been running just fine with KEA.

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @maverickws
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        @maverickws said in Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?:

        everything else been running just fine with KEA.

        Yeah it hands out IPs ;) And to be honest, I bet you there are lots and lots of users that have moved over and not noticed anything different.. Their devices get Ips, they renew the lease, etc..

        There are many scenarios where it would work just fine I am sure.. Which is why they prob released it "early" if you will.. And put up the notice, hey move over to kea, isc is going away. Because most likely for your typical user - won't even notice it switched over..

        To be honest, other than I am not a fan of the current logging, this could use some polish for sure - I could prob switch over to it.. Not much work to just setup host overrides for your devices vs using dhcp reservation registration..

        I do hand out some options - but could live without those most likely.

        But what you almost exclusively see on forums about product X, is something not working.. You don't see floods of hey works great!!

        So yeah, whenever anything changes in product be it good/bad or just "change" you get more posts - quite often from people that just didn't read the docs on what is new or what changed or what is being removed, etc..

        I wouldn't expect a flood of posts, hey I moved over to kea - it works just like isc did - why the mention of "preview" ;)

        Maybe I missed some posts, but most of the ones I have seen = didn't read the blog post, nor the release notes or just didn't catch or understand what "preview" means ;) Or took hey isc is going away at some future time to mean they "had" to move now or all hell would break loose and the sky would fall ;) And they wouldn't never get a chance to move later and their whole network would come crashing down..

        Others just didn't like the warning ;) and didn't notice they could turn it off.. And only way to make the warning go away was switch..

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        • maverickwsM
          maverickws @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz well I am definitely missing the name resolution part, I have approximately 1 hundred devices including the smart home stuff, I really don't feel like having to register as host overrides is something that doesn't make any sense to me.
          Not only here in my homelab but for example professionally we do have pfSense as well, after creating a fixed lease for a machine being provisioned we do rely heavily on the firewalls name resolving capacity, and wouldn't be feasible to have to register hosts manually for DNS.

          But anyway as you very well stressed this is a preview, I got KEA running at home, when these issues are overcome we will also adopt on the other instances.

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          • wgstarksW
            wgstarks
            last edited by wgstarks

            It worked fine for me for several months since I don’t use name resolution typically. Were I did run into problems was when I replaced an existing device and changed the MAC address used to reserve that IP. KEA wouldn’t handout the proper IP until the old reservations had expired for both devices. This made it complicated to access webui’s to do configurations of devices. Rebooting the Netgate appliance would correct this and maybe there are other workarounds as well but I never really saw any benefit to me running KEA so decided to wait until it’s a little more mature. This really just applies to my use case though. I’m sure many people don’t even use MAC reservations.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @wgstarks
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              @wgstarks said in Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?:

              I’m sure many people don’t even use MAC reservations.

              That might be a good poll.. The only things that don't have reservations on my network - are guest devices, like friends phone on my guest wifi. And devices when I first bring them online.. As soon as its ready to actually join the network full time, it gets a reservation and IP set, etc..

              Just powered up my new nvr with cameras for outside.. To just make sure it worked and cameras worked, etc. I just plugged it into port on switch in the av cab.. It came up on my roku vlan.. Made sure it all worked - then setup a reservation for it on my new cam vlan.. Changed the config on the port on that switch, and rebooted it. Now its up on correct vlan, with IP I assigned it, etc..

              I would bet many users of pfsense, use at least some reservations.. Can we create "polls" here on the forum, I don't think have ever seen one.. I would be curious to see.. Might throw up something in general off topic section.. even have to just count posts..

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?:

                Can we create "polls" here on the forum

                You should probably talk to a Global Moderator about that. ;)

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @SteveITS ahahahah - oh that is funny ;) hahaha

                  Here we go, https://forum.netgate.com/topic/186312/do-you-use-dhcp-reservations

                  Mod is different than Admin btw.. I can delete posts, that sort of thing.. But any sort of backend anything to do with the forums would have to be an Admin... You had me rolling on that comment.. Still giggling.. Good one!

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                  • GertjanG
                    Gertjan @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?:

                    Can we create "polls" here on the forum

                    I'll start right away : don't.

                    @johnpoz said in Does static mapping work in kea DHCP?:

                    I would bet many users of pfsense, use at least some reservations..

                    Others, recently, just refuse to do so. For whatever their reasons are.
                    ( they will be forced to the light as soon as IPv6 becomes main stream )

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      cybis
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                      I'm running CE 2.7.2 and the static DHCP mapping does not work for me with KEA.

                      So here's the static mapping for my alpine host.
                      DHCP_static_mappings.png

                      And here's the DHCP leases where the same host got a second (dynamic) IP assigned.
                      DHCP_leases.png

                      As I've never observed such a behaviour in the past, I switched back to the ISC DHCP.

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @cybis
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                        @CyBiS https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/2-7-1.html#kea-dhcp-server-feature-preview-now-available

                        “Currently the Kea implementation lacks the following DHCP server features:

                        Local DNS Resolver/Forwarder Registration for static and dynamic DHCP clients”

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                          cybis @SteveITS
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                          @SteveITS Thanks for the link, but I'm not sure how that is related to the static DHCP mapping (MAC address to IP address). I'm not looking for DNS resolution of the host (alpine host name to IP address) but its actual IP/DHCP lease which is supposed to be static, i.e. the host must not get any other IP than the one specified in the static DHCP mapping.

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                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @cybis
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                            @CyBiS ah, sorry I misunderstood. I think there was a thread about that either here or on Reddit. IIRC it was a theory about how it had the lease already so was granted the renewal instead of sending the new/static IP? I didn’t notice it but mine had the same IPs for the brief time I used Kea.

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                              cybis @SteveITS
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                              @SteveITS No problem 😉 I had KEA active for a couple of weeks now but today I noticed the first time that the policy-based routing for that particular host wasn't working as expected due to the wrong IP. Not sure though what exactly triggers this incorrect DHCP lease.

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