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    • NollipfSenseN
      NollipfSense @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Do you use dhcp reservations?:

      Reservations came up in one, do people even use them, etc.. Which got me curious.. I personally use them for everything...

      Yes, I do; however, not on my edge firewall pfSense...just on my LAN with Mikrotik.

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      • kohenkatzK
        kohenkatz @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS said in Do you use dhcp reservations?:

        if you need to change your subnet or especially mask it saves time touching each device to update manually.

        I just had to do this - I set up a site-to-site VPN, and there was a subnet conflict between one of my subnets and one of the other side's subnets. I was able to change my subnet with little trouble, and all the devices with reservations picked up their new IP addresses automatically.


        I also have some devices that I want static IPs for, but they do not have the ability to set a static IP. (Offhand, the first example that comes to mind is DoorBird doorbells, but there are some others too. These have an API that can be scripted, but that requires knowing how to contact them.) For these types of devices, DHCP reservations are critical.

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          coxhaus @johnpoz
          last edited by coxhaus

          @johnpoz
          I use statics for important things not reservations. My network is so small at home that over the last 15 years or so I have changed equipment enough that I just use DHCP and adapt.
          I guess I should also say I run DHCP off my Cisco L3 switch not Pfsense.

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          • Sergei_ShablovskyS
            Sergei_Shablovsky @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
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            • Sergei_ShablovskyS
              Sergei_Shablovsky @KOM
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              @KOM said in Do you use dhcp reservations?:

              I don't use reservations at home or at the office. For me the only benefit would be easier renumbering, and that's something I haven't needed to do in the 20+ years I've been at this company.

              Static IP mapping are VERY USEFUL for pf rules writing and also give You flexibility when hardware changes.

              If someone (I mean boss) not understanding this - it has a right to pay for extra work hours ;)

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              • the otherT
                the other
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                hey all,
                FYI: static mappings are in use here too. I have DHCP reservations for all my clients (pure home network). Used to do static IPs on clients directly but cahnged that to dhcp reservations. And no, not using the new kea dhcp...still the old stuff here.

                the other

                pure amateur home user, no business or professional background
                please excuse poor english skills and typpoz :)

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                • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                  Sergei_Shablovsky
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                  My decision and arguments for using “IP static mapping” in middle-size companies or small firms with @johnpoz answers and arguments You may read here: Static IP - MAC mapping inside DHCP dynamic pool - how to?.

                  Thank You all!

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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee
                    last edited by JonathanLee

                    I use them for every single device on my network. My 48 bit addresses and layer 2 addresses are all purple here because I do not want any mac address cloning going on. That is a cool pen testing tool to see that done.

                    Screenshot 2024-03-15 at 13.26.40.png

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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                      @JonathanLee said in Do you use dhcp reservations?:

                      I do not want any mac address cloning going on.

                      Who is going to clone your macs? And for what purpose? Mac cloning is only a thing if they are already on your network..

                      Here is my pc mac.. Clone away ;)

                         Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home.arpa
                         Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Killer E2600 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
                         Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : B0-4F-13-0B-FD-16
                         DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                         Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                         IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.100(Preferred)
                         Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                         Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 6, 2024 2:02:01 PM
                         Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 18, 2024 2:02:00 PM
                         Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.253
                         DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.253
                         DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.10
                         NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
                      

                      I would love to hear your theory how anyone could use that to do anything? That doesn't already have full access to my network anyway..

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                      • JonathanLeeJ
                        JonathanLee @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz bro now I can run airsnort on your network and packet sniff hahahaha. Jk

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                        • KOMK
                          KOM @Sergei_Shablovsky
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                          @Sergei_Shablovsky said in Do you use dhcp reservations?:

                          give You flexibility when hardware changes

                          New hardware? What's that?? My company runs on Dell blades from 2012. We don't ever get new hardware because that would cost more than zero. Same with our desktops.

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                            Epimpin @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz Yes, I use dhcp reservations for my wireless clients, but sometimes it does not quite work as I would Like. It works hand in hand with my macsec implementation and hardens my certificate based user auth and aids in my acl implementation.

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                              coxhaus @Epimpin
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                              @Epimpin
                              That means you are going to spend a lot of time chasing MACs for all devices that come into your network. I have better things to do with my time than track every iPhone or whatever IP devices that comes into my network. Those devices are not going to work without you setting up the MAC for a DHCP reservation. Create a setup so it can be automated. And that means don't use DHCP reservations as it is too limiting. Use DHCP for a general class of devices. You can use scopes to separate devices and classes.

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                                Epimpin @coxhaus
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                                @coxhaus
                                Well it all starts with having a good understanding of what a mac address consists of. For instance, the first 6 digits(3 octets) tell you who manufacures the device and when and is called an OUI.

                                I have a locally stored OUI database installed in my auth scheme and I have ACL'S that block any device made by Huawei for instance and sends them to a walled garden with a message regarding Huawei devices with specific information.

                                You should know what type of devices you should expect on your network. With some simple network automation you don't have to "chase" mac addresses.

                                Then for things like switch to switch communications in your core, you should only ever see mac addresses of the neighboring switch. It doesn't have to be hard.

                                The dhcp reservations work well for allowing my roaming clients in my wireless networks to maintain a consistent connection and also allows my gigamon boxes to assign an identifier and gives good deduplication and solid subscriber tracking and less logging without having to implement a complex gtp/gprs configuration.

                                It works for me.

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                                  coxhaus @Epimpin
                                  last edited by coxhaus

                                  @Epimpin
                                  I am glad it works for you. If you work on a network with 4 or 5 thousand PCs plus devices you are not going to be able to do that and do your job.

                                  You are building a structure that is going to be limited.

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                                  • JonathanLeeJ
                                    JonathanLee @coxhaus
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                                    @coxhaus the reservations is more for tracking specific devices and or needs. Smaller networks yes it’s ok, but for thousands it gets harder to keep track of. A way around this is to set the dhcp pool lease timers really high so devices get the same IP address each time.

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                                      coxhaus @JonathanLee
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                                      @JonathanLee
                                      Plus using long DHCP lease times reduces your broadcast traffic immensely. Reducing the loads on your network.

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                                      • cwagzC
                                        cwagz
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                                        Number one reason for using dhcp reservation in my house is to allow me to direct the kids to different Pi-holes as they get older. This allows me to control YouTube restrictions and filter settings by maturity. All outside dns is blocked and I have a lot of fail safes in place that land “new” devices in the most restrictive Pi-hole group. This has worked really well until they get savvy. Then I have to decide if it is worth playing the cat and mouse game.

                                        The pi-hole remote app is great because it has built in blocking controls for things like Roblox and discord. I can switch one kid off if they aren’t doing their homework or whatever.

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                                        • JonathanLeeJ
                                          JonathanLee @cwagz
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                                          @cwagz I also have controls set up with mine and the LEDs on the firewall change if someone is on devices at night that should be sleeping. I customized the LEDs to state specific activation.

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                                            Epimpin
                                            last edited by Epimpin

                                            DHCP reservations allow us to have the ease, simplicity and benefits of DHCP without some of its pitfalls allowing us to rely on and use persistence of IP as a tool in other implementations and tools.

                                            Ive seen how it works on other systems and it almost never works the way it should or how you think it should, but on pfsense it just simply works and as you would expect (most of the time).

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