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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @sutha
      last edited by SteveITS

      @sutha pfSense doesn’t need a gateway for an internal network. It “knows” where they are.

      .60 sends traffic for .50 to its gateway, pfSense, which sends it onto the .50 network.

      Broadcast/multicast are different things but ping/tcp/udp work fine.

      Edit: you can do it with multiple IPs or NICs but the traffic wouldn’t go through pfSense. And there’s nothing in your scenario to prevent a Pc from adding an IP for the card network.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @sutha
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        @sutha said in Unable to connect between lan1 and lan2:

        I add an additional IP to my E-Pos system within the range 10.x.x.100 and subnet.

        That only works when both subnets are using the same netwok segment. That isn't the case here, you have two segments with pfSense between them. Also two subnets on one segment is generally considered a bad idea!

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          sutha
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          This is my ping result from pfsense diagnostics.
          Lan1:
          ping result lan1.png

          Lan2:
          ping result lan2.png

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @sutha
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            @sutha that seems fine. Are these networks on different switches?

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
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              @sutha yeah you expect that... Now do the simple sniff test I did to validate pfsense sends the traffic on..

              Can almost promise you its a host firewall issue.. If both devices use pfsense as their gateway. And your firewall rule allows client on A to talk to network B, or even just client Bs address then it will send it on.. If you do not get an answer it just SCREAMS!!! that device did not answer..

              A simple 10 second test will prove that to you..

              Another possible problem is your masks are wrong on the clients.. If say client A is using a /16 mask vs /24, then it would think 192.168.60.x is local and never send the traffic to pfsense. Or even if client A mask puts the 192.168.60.x address on a different network and sends it to pfsense, and pfsense sends it on.. If client Bs mask think 192.168.50.x is on its local network - it will never send its answer back to pfsense.

              pfsense would prevent you from creating 2 networks that overlap like that - but maybe you set the IPs manually on the devices and using the wrong mask?

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                sutha @SteveITS
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                @SteveITS Yes, They are on different switch. Switch a connected to lan1 and switch b connected to lan2. Therfore, I have opened a rule on both lan "Any to Any".

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                  sutha @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz Do you think, if I have disabled my total firewall on my system can block anything.
                  Everyone talking about sniff test, how do I do it. Any instruction.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
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                    @sutha got to packet capture under the diagnostic menu.. pick your interface (destination network interface) and any filters you want to put in like icmp or the IP of one of the devices.. Click start..

                    Now send your ping from your client in network A to your IP in network B.

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                      sutha @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz This is my result:
                      Something is not right.
                      After sniffing with packet capture, I'm able to capture packets between pfsense only.
                      My pfsense is on 192.168.50.1, I'll get traffic captured if I send anything to this ip.
                      Packet capture:
                      packet capture.png
                      These are my ping result from lan1:
                      If try my lan2 network, nothing happend.

                      Pfsense:
                      18:17:41.297565 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.50.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 114, length 40
                      18:17:41.297603 IP 192.168.50.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 114, length 40
                      18:17:42.316326 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.50.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 115, length 40
                      18:17:42.316343 IP 192.168.50.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 115, length 40
                      18:17:43.332647 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.50.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 116, length 40
                      18:17:43.332661 IP 192.168.50.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 116, length 40
                      18:17:44.345138 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.50.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 117, length 40
                      18:17:44.345153 IP 192.168.50.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 117, length 40

                      ISP:
                      18:17:53.333221 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 118, length 40
                      18:17:53.333890 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 118, length 40
                      18:17:54.346585 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 119, length 40
                      18:17:54.347073 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 119, length 40
                      18:17:55.362542 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 120, length 40
                      18:17:55.363027 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 120, length 40
                      18:17:56.375135 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 121, length 40
                      18:17:56.375467 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 121, length 40

                      Google:
                      18:18:28.443341 IP 192.168.50.100 > 142.250.187.195: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 126, length 40
                      18:18:28.445510 IP 142.250.187.195 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 126, length 40
                      18:18:29.459627 IP 192.168.50.100 > 142.250.187.195: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 127, length 40
                      18:18:29.461912 IP 142.250.187.195 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 127, length 40
                      18:18:30.478792 IP 192.168.50.100 > 142.250.187.195: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 128, length 40
                      18:18:30.481679 IP 142.250.187.195 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 128, length 40
                      18:18:31.498252 IP 192.168.50.100 > 142.250.187.195: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 129, length 40
                      18:18:31.501290 IP 142.250.187.195 > 192.168.50.100: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 129, length 40
                      18:20:27.374903 IP 192.168.50.100 > 192.168.50.1: ICMP 192.168.50.100 udp port 52048 unreachable, length 286

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                        sutha @sutha
                        last edited by sutha

                        @sutha These all ping belongs to lan1 port, even if I try to ping another pc on the same network. I'll get a ping result on command prompt but nothing will be captured.
                        Lan2 port got nothing captured.

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          If you are trying to ping something on LAN2 from 192.168.50.100 and it doesn't appear in that capture then the client is not sending it to the gateway.

                          It would only do that if it has a bad route to that subnet. So if it has the wrong subnet mask. Or if it is still dual homed with a second IP in that subnet.

                          What error is shown on on the host when it fails?

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
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                            @sutha So sniffing on the lan interface, this is where the 192.168.50.x box is and pfsense is IP is 192.168.50.1 and you ping 192.168.60.50 and you get nothing?

                            Lets see the output of your ipconfig /all

                            You sure you turned off this boxes 192.168.60 interface you said it had, or did you just remove the gateway from the interface?

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                              sutha @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz Sorry for the late reply. I'll try to disable my tunnel tomorrow and let you know the outcome.

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
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                                @sutha said in Unable to connect between lan1 and lan2:

                                I'll try to disable my tunnel tomorrow

                                tunnel? No freaking wonder your not seeing anything.. Its going out your vpn.. uggghhhh - you have wasted everyones time not stating that in post 1..

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                                  sutha @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz Actually, that's not true. When I trace the ping, only the tunnel IP goes through the tunnel. Everything else showing the local system ip with the message unreachable.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    @sutha dude turn off your vpn client on this box and your issues will go away!!

                                    A vpn client will route traffic not set to the local network out the vpn.. So yeah trying to go to 192.168.60 vs 192.168.50 will go your vpn client tunnel... Pfsense can not route traffic its never seeing.. Ie your sniff on your lan not showing any traffic when trying to go to 192.168.60 because its being routed out your tunnel

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                                      sutha @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz Does this mean I'm unable to create another interface for my local system as I was planning now?

                                      My scenario:

                                      A tunnel exists: site-to-site VPN connection.

                                      I'd like to have another area for locally separated traffic. I don't want, as I mentioned earlier, Area 2 to communicate with Area 1, but I have users in Area 1 who need to access Area 2.

                                      Do you think this is possible?

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @sutha
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                                        @sutha if you want a site to site tunnel - create that on pfsense..

                                        Yes you can filter traffic that pfsense routes.. If you want client X to be able to get to vlan Y, you can allow that, if you want client A not to go to vlan Y from vlan X you can block them..

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                                          sutha @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz Yes, that's what I'm looking for. Currently, I have disabled two of the rules, and after reboot, my system suddenly went offline. I need to go to my office to see what happened. Once I have my system back online, I can provide you with some more details.

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                                            sutha @sutha
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                                            @sutha So, now I have removed all the rules and disabled the tunnel as well. I've also removed the lan1 and lan2 rules. Currently, I have no internet access and no connectivity to any system. Since I have no internet, I enabled an 'any' rule on lan1, and now I can see there is internet access for lan1 PCs. However, I still have no internet access on lan2. Therefore, I repeated the same steps I took for lan1 on lan2, and now I have internet access on both interfaces.

                                            I'm now able to ping from 192.168.50.100 to 192.168.50.1, and when I enter this IP:192.168.50.1 in my browser, it took me to the pfSense web configurator. However, when I attempted to ping a pc on lan2, it failed. I moved to over to lan2 pc and did the ping to an ip 192.168.60.1 and it was successful. Furthermore, I tried to access the pfSense web configurator from lan2 using the IP 192.168.60.1, and it successfully redirected me to the web configurator.

                                            At this point, I don't have any rules other than these two. Anyone got any idea what is blocking here, I have disabled my windows own firewall tatally on both system.

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