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      8ayM @8ayM
      last edited by 8ayM

      @8ayM

      Latest test running top -HaSP
      ntopng Community v.5.6.240304 rev.0 running in background. It had been disabled for most of our testing after it was suggested to do so

      https://streamable.com/ir3e6j

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by stephenw10

        Did you try testing with ntop-ng disabled? Also try with bandwidthd and darkstat disabled.

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          8ayM @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 said in Abysmal Performance after pfSense hardware upgrade:

          Did you try testing with ntop-ng disabled? Also try with bandwidthd and darkstat disabled.

          I'll try again when I get home

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            8ayM @stephenw10
            last edited by 8ayM

            @stephenw10 said in Abysmal Performance after pfSense hardware upgrade:

            Did you try testing with ntop-ng disabled? Also try with bandwidthd and darkstat disabled.

            As requested

            Preformed the test disabling one at a time announcing which ones. Then a final test again Turing all back on
            https://streamable.com/77ahrq

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Hmm, so still interrupt load with all three disabled? There must be something else set there. You have any custom sysctls set?

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                8ayM @stephenw10
                last edited by 8ayM

                @stephenw10 said in Abysmal Performance after pfSense hardware upgrade:

                Hmm, so still interrupt load with all three disabled? There must be something else set there. You have any custom sysctls set?

                Not that I recall, then again this has been an evolution of my early usage of pfSense which is going for about 15 years at this point. Always seemed to complicated to start over, and over time that feeling continued to grow.

                Here is my current System Tunables:
                effb98f6-18ec-4095-b86d-0402c457c605-image.png

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Hmm, nothing unexpected there. You have any custom loader values in /boot/loader.conf.local?

                  What other packages do you have installed?

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                    8ayM @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10

                    ba474eb7-7f3e-4f2c-885a-8496c5bdbabe-image.png

                    [2.7.2-RELEASE][admin@pfSense-Edge01.scs.lan]/boot: vi loader.conf
                    kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                    kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0"
                    kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="0"
                    kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbo9="524288"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbop="524288"
                    opensolaris_load="YES"
                    zfs_load="YES"
                    opensolaris_load="YES"
                    zfs_load="YES"
                    kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                    kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0"
                    kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="0"
                    kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbo9="524288"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbop="524288"
                    kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0"
                    kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="0"
                    cryptodev_load="YES"
                    zfs_load="YES"
                    boot_serial="NO"
                    autoboot_delay="3"
                    hw.hn.vf_transparent="0"
                    hw.hn.use_if_start="1"
                    net.link.ifqmaxlen="128"
                    machdep.hwpstate_pkg_ctrl="1"
                    net.pf.states_hashsize="4194304"

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      No loader.conf.local file though?

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                        8ayM @stephenw10
                        last edited by 8ayM

                        @stephenw10

                        Not that I'm seeing. I could create one if there are persistent items needed to be added.
                        10322d0b-f174-419f-887a-232421205f76-image.png

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ok good, nothing unexpected hiding there.

                          Is Snort running on the interfaces passing traffic during the test? I don't see it in any of your output.

                          The interrupt load shown really seems to line up with the ntop load though. It makes me wonder if if something there is actually still enabled.

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                            8ayM @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

                            I'm not running snort ATM, but I do have pfBlockerNG running

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Hmm, pfBlocker doesn't run continually against all traffic like that. Any load created by large lists just appears as firewall load in the task queues.

                              It's almost as if the NICs are running in a different mode. 🤔

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                                8ayM @stephenw10
                                last edited by 8ayM

                                @stephenw10

                                Let me know if there is anything you can think of me trying or something else you'd like to to check.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  The throughput you're seeing now is as expected though?

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                                    8ayM @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10

                                    It is. You just now have me curious what is causing the interrupts.

                                    I'm considering getting the 1u version of my new router. If I do, I'll preform a clean install and look to rebuild my system one brick at a time to see if I can figure out what is causing the GUI slowdown I've had since I moved to my last hardware. I can try to keep an eye on the interrupts as well.

                                    Here is the stats from Status -> Interfaces
                                    935a89b5-24f3-40d6-80f6-f9882b2acd0c-image.png

                                    I seem to be a little beyond the interrupt range you said shouldn't be "unusual".
                                    b23b86ef-1eba-42cd-8bd0-26af509aa221-image.png

                                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/179674/netgate-6100-significant-interface-interrupt-rates/9

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Mmm, but no where near 10K! I agree though I find it odd that you see the interrupt loading in the top output and I do not on a similar C3K system. Like whilst passing 1Gbps iperf traffic on a 5100:

                                      last pid: 57718;  load averages:  0.55,  0.36,  0.34                                              up 0+06:27:17  22:57:28
                                      339 threads:   7 running, 288 sleeping, 44 waiting
                                      CPU 0:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 28.6% system,  0.0% interrupt, 71.4% idle
                                      CPU 1:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 23.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 76.9% idle
                                      CPU 2:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 24.7% system,  0.0% interrupt, 74.9% idle
                                      CPU 3:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 34.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 65.9% idle
                                      Mem: 45M Active, 258M Inact, 505M Wired, 3028M Free
                                      ARC: 127M Total, 28M MFU, 93M MRU, 416K Anon, 962K Header, 4535K Other
                                           92M Compressed, 229M Uncompressed, 2.48:1 Ratio
                                      Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free
                                      
                                        PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                                         11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K RUN      0 377:22  73.68% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
                                         11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K RUN      2 376:55  73.23% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
                                         11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K RUN      1 377:47  72.55% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
                                         11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K CPU3     3 376:45  72.51% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
                                          0 root        -60    -     0B  1648K -        0   0:06  19.51% [kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]
                                          0 root        -60    -     0B  1648K -        3   0:05  18.78% [kernel{if_io_tqg_3}]
                                          0 root        -60    -     0B  1648K CPU1     1   0:04  18.60% [kernel{if_io_tqg_1}]
                                      57718 root         34    0    19M  8644K CPU0     0   0:03  17.05% iperf3 -c 172.21.16.8 -P 3 -t 30{iperf3}
                                      57718 root         36    0    19M  8644K sbwait   3   0:04  16.93% iperf3 -c 172.21.16.8 -P 3 -t 30{iperf3}
                                      57718 root         40    0    19M  8644K sbwait   1   0:03  16.74% iperf3 -c 172.21.16.8 -P 3 -t 30{iperf3}
                                          0 root        -60    -     0B  1648K -        1   0:36   0.14% [kernel{if_config_tqg_0}]
                                      78943 root         20    0    14M  4716K CPU2     2   0:00   0.12% top -HaSP
                                          7 root        -16    -     0B    16K pftm     0   0:09   0.03% [pf purge]
                                      
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                                        8ayM @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10

                                        What settings did you utilize for the iperf test?

                                        I turned on the server on my pfSense box

                                        Then connected from my Windows box with
                                        iperf3.exe -c 192.168.1.1 -P 2

                                        This way I get over 1Gbps

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          I ran the server on a Linux box on my network and then ran a client on pfSense:

                                          [24.03-BETA][admin@5100-2.stevew.lan]/root: iperf3 -c 172.21.16.8 -P 3 -t 30
                                          Connecting to host 172.21.16.8, port 5201
                                          [  5] local 172.21.16.75 port 22757 connected to 172.21.16.8 port 5201
                                          [  7] local 172.21.16.75 port 1280 connected to 172.21.16.8 port 5201
                                          [  9] local 172.21.16.75 port 22575 connected to 172.21.16.8 port 5201
                                          [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
                                          [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  39.2 MBytes   329 Mbits/sec    0    938 KBytes       
                                          [  7]   0.00-1.00   sec  39.2 MBytes   329 Mbits/sec    0    939 KBytes       
                                          [  9]   0.00-1.00   sec  39.2 MBytes   329 Mbits/sec    0    937 KBytes       
                                          [SUM]   0.00-1.00   sec   118 MBytes   986 Mbits/sec    0 
                                          

                                          The 5100 ix NICs are 1G but the SoC is the same.

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                                            8ayM @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10

                                            I averaged about 1.9Gbps with the interrupts @ 24%-31%

                                            with your settings

                                            I'm guessingthere are gremlins in the config, from being carried forward over a decade, multiple hardware, and os upgrades

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