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    • keyserK
      keyser Rebel Alliance
      last edited by

      Hi Admins

      I think this forum needs a specific NUT subforum under packages.
      It is close to impossible to troubleshoote or get support on the NUT package because it is forced to use mile long (hundreds and hundreds of posts) threads with all kinds of issues mixed up.

      NUT is a big package on pfSense, and i think it - and @dennypage - deserves its own subforum.

      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, interesting. It pretty much 'just worked' for me so I've never really had to dig too deeply into it.

        Any other opinions on this?

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        • LarryFahnoeL
          LarryFahnoe @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 my experience with NUT is similar: it's typically just worked. However I'm a longtime subscriber to the NUT mailing lists and much of the traffic there is the oddball cases that don't work. Each one ends up being a bit of a rabbit hole especially if the UPS isn't on the tested list. Reading through the pfsense NUT thread shows a bunch of the oddball cases but all munged together in a single thread. I can imagine it would be much easier to read/follow if there was a sub-forum and multiple conversation threads.

          --Larry

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          • dennypageD
            dennypage @LarryFahnoe
            last edited by

            @LarryFahnoe said in We need a NUT subforum under packages:

            it's typically just worked.
            ...
            Each one ends up being a bit of a rabbit hole especially if the UPS isn't on the tested list. Reading through the pfsense NUT thread shows a bunch of the oddball cases but all munged together in a single thread.

            This is a reasonable evaluation. For the vast majority of folk, it just works, myself included. However, when it doesn't, it's often quite a bit of back and forth.

            The prior 2.8.0 and below thread is over 1200 posts. The current 2.8.1 and above thread is already over 300 posts. That's a lot. A subforum would be helpful, particularly when there are multiple conversations going simultaneously.

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            • keyserK
              keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
              last edited by keyser

              @stephenw10 Obviously the lenght of the threads says it all, but really - if you have a couple of hours, read them through.
              You’ll notice that not only is there a lot of different “rabbit hole” troubleshooting conversations, but also a lot of simpler questions on how to finetune certain settings or setup multihost protection in different scenarios.
              Those simple conversations gets completely lost, and the valuable knowledge they relay is lost on the rest of us - because we cannot fint it/never stumble upon it.

              I really think a subthread is warranted here.

              Edit: Make that a that a full day - that’s how long t takes to read them through.

              Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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              • S
                SteveITS Galactic Empire @keyser
                last edited by

                I don't use NUT so take this with a grain of salt, but I've often wondered why people don't just create new threads for their issues, in the Packages forum...? (from Netgate's POV there are only two recent threads for it...)

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10

                  Never underestimate the urge to post in an active thread. Even when it has nothing to do with what's being posted! 🙄

                  But, yes, I would expect to find separate posts in the general packages category.

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                  • keyserK
                    keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                    last edited by keyser

                    @stephenw10 I’m not arguing, But it could be called counterintuitive that most “wellused” packages have subforums and separate threads - so in fear of their post will loose visibilty, People post in the active Thread.

                    Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yeah I see no harm in adding one.

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                      • keyserK
                        keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 and considering there is FAR more activity in the NUT threads than on most specifik package subforums, it would make a lot of sense

                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Hmm should we include apcupsd in that category? UPS Tools maybe?

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in We need a NUT subforum under packages:

                            Hmm should we include apcupsd in that category? UPS Tools maybe?

                            In my opinion, yes.

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                            • keyserK
                              keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                              last edited by keyser

                              @stephenw10 Sounds like a really good idea
                              Edit: Already created :-)

                              Thanks @stephenw10 - Really appreciated.

                              Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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