3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days

adamw

I'm on the fence swapping for 2100 vs 4200.
Our 3100 is generally sitting at around 20-30% CPU, memory and MBUF usage most of the time.
Downgrading might be risky and upgrading might be a big overkill.
Any other factors to consider?

SteveITS

@adamw Bandwidth is a big one...the 2100 maxes out around 600 Mbps or thereabouts, without packages.

mcury

I sold my SG-3100 and I regret that.. I miss that little device.
See, there are a lot that you can do with an EOL device, even more with a builtin switch.

There is a veterinary clinic that is asking me to deploy a VPN solution, they are a small business, don't want to buy a switch, just a nobreak, few cables and the gateway.

They want to be able to access the clinic from home, check some documents, cameras, it is not anything really fancy.
So, for a 9W device, SG-3100 is king, two WANs and 4 switched ports, 24.03 firmware, enough speed for almost every small business...

I wonder if there will be a SG-3200 device someday..

adamw

@mcury

I'm wondering about 3200 as well. Is it in the pipeline at all?

We use squid proxy which is no longer supported on 3100 and upgrading to 24.03 not recommended for that reason.

We can survive a couple of months but I don't want to stretch it too much.

mcury

@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:

I'm wondering about 3200 as well. Is it in the pipeline at all?

Not that I'm aware of, I'm just a regular user..

@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:

We can survive a couple of months but I don't want to stretch it too much.

If I were in your position now, I would get a SG-4200, it will give you a lot of time don't thinking in upgrade..

adamw

@mcury

Any idea about EOL dates for 2100 and 4200?
https://www.netgate.com/support/product-lifecycle doesn't mention either.

Gertjan

@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:

4200

The MAX version was presented 3 weeks ago ....
Not sure they already know when it stops before it begins ^^

mcury

@adamw said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:

@mcury

Any idea about EOL dates for 2100 and 4200?
https://www.netgate.com/support/product-lifecycle doesn't mention either.

Well, according to the link you provided, EOL will happen after 1-3 years after EOS (end of sales).

As I see it, someone corrects me if I'm wrong about it, you shouldn't worry to much with EOL for x86 devices.
SG-5100 is a device that we can use as an example for this, it is EOL for a long time and to this day, you can install the latest firmware, with all packages available.

SG-3100 is a particular case, it is ARM-32 bit and it is the only 32-bit device in the Netgate appliances lineup and it was released 6 years ago (not sure about the date).
I heard that upstream (FreeBSD), is also not going to support 32-bit architecture anymore.

The lifespan of the SG-3100 has been great to be honest.

So, answering your question, I'm not sure about the SG-2100, but SG-4200 will definitely be around for a long time, even if its EOL.

Everything that I said here is my point of view, I could be wrong ok ?

stephenw10

Nothing planned yet for 2100 or 4200. No plans to stop building for either AFAIK. The 4200, being x86-64, will likely be supportable for many years.
It's hard to know the future but we only stopped supporting x86-32 years after we stopped selling hardware that required it. Everything we have ever sold that is x86-64 will still run current pfSense AFAIK.

mcury

@stephenw10 said in 3100 will reach "End of Life" in 5 days:

Nothing planned yet for 2100 or 4200. No plans to stop building for either AFAIK. The 4200, being x86-64, will likely be supportable for many years.
It's hard to know the future but we only stopped supporting x86-32 years after we stopped selling hardware that required it. Everything we have ever sold that is x86-64 will still run current pfSense AFAIK.

Thanks stephenw10 for clarifying things for us.

So, is it correct to assume that SG-4100 will also be here for a long time, right ?
PS: I'm a SG-4100 owner

stephenw10

I would certainly expect it to be. There is no complex custom code required for that, for example, which would need significant developer time to maintain.

At some point it will be marked EoL and from then it would be maintained as best effort. If some new bug or security issue was discovered specific to that platform it might potentially be excluded but AFAIK that's never happened to any previous devices. Hard to predict the future though!