DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times
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@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
Don't worry about 8.8.8.8 etc, they will get over it ;)
hahaha - made me laugh.. Oh man they are going to wonder why Ricky stopped asking for dns..
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First, thanks for all the screenshots and suggestions, really appreciate the time, i'm going nuts.
@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
So : uncheck this one :
Since @johnpoz first message i've had this unenabled in the DNS Resolver settings menu:
are you still seeing this constant restarting in the current log? Is there somewhere else i can disable or does a similar setting live elsewhere in the menu?@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
And remember : under pfBlockerng control, unbound can also get restarted.
I still don't think i have pfblockerng installed. I believe its an installed package that would show up in the Firewall drop down:
@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
To see unbound (DNS) activity, I use this :
I don't seem to have a var folder under /var/unbound/ Is this an issue with being on 2.7.0 and not 2.7.2? i would love to try to update but I'm running into a roadblock there as well:
After posting this I will go back to this thread and see if there's any other suggestions to try besides what I already have: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/184670/issue-with-going-from-2-7-0-to-2-7-2/9
edit: there didn't appear to be anything more I hadn't tried besides installing 2.7.2 from scratch and restoring the backup, which i'm not currently prepared to do@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
This is what I'm using :
Differences I see are:-
I have All selected under Outgoing Network Interface, I've changed that to LocalHost to match yours but i don't really understand this setting
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I have System Domain Local Zone Type set to Transparent and not static like you. I don't understand this option and can switch it if the above doesn't fix anything
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I disabled DNSSEC per @johnpoz suggestion in the first post
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I don't have Python Module enabled (should I?)
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i have a different SSL cert but I assume that's just a personal one you created
I also don't understand what the domain overrides at the end are, should I trash them?
Again thanks for everything. anything to attempt is appreciated
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@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
Don't worry about 8.8.8.8 etc, they will get over it ;)
sorry missed this part:
I removed those 4 other dns after that first post as well, are they also still showing up in the logs? -
@RickyBaker said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
I have All selected under Outgoing Network Interface, I've changed that to LocalHost to match yours but i don't really understand this settingAll is default (I guess). The local DNS guru explained me somewhere that Localhost was 'better'.
I have System Domain Local Zone Type set to Transparent and not static like you. I don't understand this option and can switch it if the above doesn't fix anythingI can read this (as an explanation). You probably have to translate. I've chosen 'static' for my use, but there is really no important differences with transparent.
I disabled DNSSEC per @johnpoz suggestion in the first postDNSSEC can be sued without issues if you do not Forward. You don't, so you an use it.
Disabling it won't hurt, though.I don't have Python Module enabled (should I?)You can. DNSSEC, if activated, uses Python. And pfBlockerng - but you don't use pfBlockerng .
It's activated by default.i have a different SSL cert but I assume that's just a personal one you createdPick one you've listed. Certs are not used by default.
I also don't understand what the domain overrides at the end are, should I trash them?
These are added by the pfSense admin = you. Not Netgate.
But I know why these (your) domains are listed : it will disable registration checking of some known adobe (photoshop, to name it) software ^^
If you don't have the cracked Photoshop installed on one of your PCs, you can remove them all. -
@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
You can. DNSSEC, if activated, uses Python. And pfBlockerng - but you don't use pfBlockerng .
It's activated by default.any suggestions on what options to select for the Python Module after enabling? If I understood you correctly you were suggesting that it's necessary IF i enable DNSSEC support? But that DNSSEC isn't necessary?
@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
Pick one you've listed. Certs are not used by default.
I picked my name, which was a user I created for OpenVPN i think. I assumed you were implying that picking "Webconfigurator Default" was suboptimal/wrong?
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@RickyBaker said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
any suggestions
The resolver can do DNSSEC for you. It's not mandatory.
But If you know what DNSSEC is, you will activate DNSSEC. It will not secure every DNS request, as most domain names are not signed yet. But when they are, why not securing the request ?@RickyBaker said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
I picked my name
TLS can be used by unbound to secure the TLS channels, like the control chancel, commonly on 853. Any cert will do.
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The cert means nothing - unless you want unbound to be a dot server to your clients. Forget about the cert that is listed. It matters when you want to answer dot queries, not when you want to make them.
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I've enabled DNSSEC again since it didn't really help my issue having it disabled. Is there another log I should increase the logging on? What level should I have the dns resolver on? I'm still experiencing the issue, yesterday for about 20 minutes (longest yet) I couldn't' open a webpage on my phone, but I was concurrently streaming the Knicks game on Youtube TV.
I've also added all those "no vendor" Mac address's I couldn't explain with randomly assigned DHCP leases to the whitelist block list and they've yet to come back and I've yet to discover anything broken. Just an update.
Any advice on getting it updated to 2.7.2 without doing a full clean install and restore?
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@RickyBaker said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
I've enabled DNSSEC again since it didn't really help my issue having it disabled
if you are forwarding dnssec should be disabled.. While it might not seem like no issues with a few queries, but can tell you its going to be problematic at some point.. even quad9 faq for when forwarding says to disable it. It is pointless if you forward, where you forward does dnssec or they don't you telling unbound to do it isn't going to do anything other than cause you issues at some point.
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@johnpoz I'm no longer forwarding per your first post in this thread.
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@RickyBaker Long thread and haven't paid close attention, could tell if you had switched back to forwarding or not. Yeah if your resolving then dnssec is good to have enabled.
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@johnpoz great thanks for circling back
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https://pastebin.com/SFR8BXb0
Woke up from a nap and experienced one of the longest internet outages of this whole saga. It was out at 3:14 when I tried to open venmo and was out for over 20 minutes before it came back. the above is the DNS resolver log but I think i have the log level dialed too high cause 2000 entries didn't even go back 2 minutes. I've changed it back to Log Level 1 but could someone check it out and see if there's any clues in there (or what log level I should have it at)? Or is there another log that I should also be monitoring? Is it possible the problem is purely something with the wifi and Ubiquiti?
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Same thoughts here : a high level of log details actually the details your looking for, as there is only for 2 minutes worth of info.
If you have some disk space left, you can make the log files bigger.
If needed, you can make the log retention a bit smaller - I've "7", you can make it 5 or 4.
You can also make this, one
a bit bigger.
The actual goal is :
As soon as you find a situation where a device has no access anymore, you have to check :
Does the access without using DNS works ? For example, ping 8.8.8.8 from that device.
Also double check : does the device has a valid IP, gateway and dns set at that moment ?
Example :ipconfig /alland check the duration of the lease, the gateway, the DNS (both should point to the IP of pfSense.
Check on the device if "DNS" works :
C:\Users\Gauche>nslookup www.google.com Serveur : pfSense.bhf.tld Address: 2a01:cb19:907:bedf:92ec:77ff:fe29:392c Réponse ne faisant pas autorité : Nom : www.google.com Addresses: 2a00:1450:4007:81a::2004 142.250.201.164Take note : for me, both IPv6 and IPv4 works.
Then (also) check on pfSense if resolving works :
dig @127.0.0.1 www.google.com +shortand then
dig @192.168.1.1 www.google.com +shortwhere 192.168.1.1 is your LAN interface.
Check if unbound is up and running :
[24.03-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: ps ax | grep 'unbound' 74113 - Ss 4:32.60 /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf .... ....and
[24.03-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: sockstat | grep 'unbound' unbound unbound 74113 3 udp6 *:53 *:* unbound unbound 74113 4 tcp6 *:53 *:* unbound unbound 74113 5 udp4 *:53 *:* unbound unbound 74113 6 tcp4 *:53 *:* unbound unbound 74113 9 tcp4 127.0.0.1:953 *:* ... ... ... ...With the unbound log details set to "1", it will still contains the number of restarts (a controlled stop and then a start :
grep "stopped" /var/log/resolver.log ..... <30>1 2024-05-06T00:15:24.852356+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld unbound 12814 - - [12814:0] info: service stopped (unbound 1.19.3).Btw : the actual unbound version is 1.19.3 as I'm using 24.03.
pfSense 2.8.0 will be coming out soon.
Not that the version really matters (imho) as I was using 1.17.x also a long time, and don't recall having any issues.@RickyBaker said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
Is it possible the problem is purely something with the wifi and Ubiquiti?
For me, an AP should be what it should do :; being a radio to wire signal converter.
True, an AP can do a lot more, and really braking the connection for you.
When testing connectivity issues, add APs and other gadgets later on, when you know the wired connection works well.
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@RickyBaker did you actually do some dns queries while you were having the issue, to both unbound and say external dns?
You should log queries and replies as well if your wanting to troubleshoot dns not working.
int your options box in unbound
server: log-queries: yes log-replies: yeswhat is the response, timeout talking to unbound, servfail, nx?
fire up your fav dns tool, nslookup, dig, doggo, host, etc. and actual validate what is failing.. If you look some fqdn do you get a response. if so what is the response, did it work, did unbound return servfail, or nx domain ?
Does unbound answer local resources, like pfsense fqdn? Does something that is cached work, only new queries fail. You can view what is in your cache
[23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_cache | grep forum.netgate.com forum.netgate.com. 2452 IN A 208.123.73.71 msg forum.netgate.com. IN A 32896 1 2452 3 1 1 3 6 forum.netgate.com. IN A 0 [23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/root:If that fails, then do a query directed to some external NS like quad9 or google - do those work?
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@Gertjan said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
As soon as you find a situation where a device has no access anymore, you have to check :
Does the access without using DNS works ? For example, ping 8.8.8.8 from that device.
Also double check : does the device has a valid IP, gateway and dns set at that moment ?this is really helpful, thank you, i will try to screenshot this post and enact it as well as possible the minute i notice an outage. BTW I tested a hard wired PC when i had an outage and also observed dns connectivity issues fwiw. but all of this is a very good framework for continuing the troubleshooting
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@RickyBaker how are you knowing the dns is failing? Are you doing an actual query with a tool? like dig or nslookup?
Or your browser just doesn't load - for all you know your browser is using doh..
When you have the issue, can your client ping its gateway (pfsense) can you ping the internet via IP, 8.8.8.8 for example.
If you can not ping pfsense, then you have a local network issue most likely. If you can not ping the internet - maybe just your internet is out. If you can ping pfsense, can you do a query for pfsense name, this should always work even if the internet is down. Only reason it wouldn't is you can't actually talk to pfsense, or unbound is not running.
Doing some basic connectivity tests and dns queries should point to where your actual problem is.
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@johnpoz said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
did you actually do some dns queries while you were having the issue, to both unbound and say external dns?
at one point when i finally realized i could use dig on the pfsense itself I ran the command you posted to 8.8.8.8 and it worked successfully but I need to test this more thoroughly (i.e. other linux devices not the pfsense) and try 8.8.8.8 as well as google.com. thanks for reminding.
@johnpoz said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
int your options box in unbound
I'm sorry where would i find/set these options set?
@johnpoz said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
what is the response, timeout talking to unbound, servfail, nx?
again, very sorry but how would I do this? I don't even KNOW what servfail, nx is? In fact, reading the rest of the suggestions i can tell this is an important framework for isolating the issue but it's just far beyond my grasp of the tools at play. I will google each individual term in hopes of understanding better but if there's a more specific you could include for me to enact and post that would be very helpful.
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@RickyBaker Windows has nslookup...run "nslookup netgate.com" and see what it returns. Do the same with "dig netgate.com" on the router, and/or use Diagnostics/DNS Lookup to test there.
Servfail is an error. NXDOMAIN means the host doesn't exist.
At the time of the outage also "ping 8.8.8.8" to ensure your Internet is working, even if DNS is not.
In other words try to narrow down your problem.
re: options, he means the settings in Services/DNS Resolver under "Display Custom Options" which is blank by default.
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@SteveITS said in DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN sporadically for anywhere from 30secs to 10min. works flawlessly at all other times:
s. Do the same with "dig netgate.com" on the router, and/or use Diagnostics/DNS Lookup to test there.
great, thanks for that explanation
