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    • dennypageD
      dennypage @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 There is also an assertion here that something prevented the options setting from taking effect without a restart. I've not experienced this myself, but it's worth noting. Perhaps there is some underlying issue?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, that's weird. It's just an option in pf. As long as the ruleset is reloaded after enabling it that should work fine. Nothing there should require a reboot.

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        • beerguzzleB
          beerguzzle
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          stephanw10 et al, thank you for the clue that fixed this issue, ie the "Allow IP Options".

          Before I clicked this option on, I checked the state details on my rule to see what happened today while I was out hiking. Short answer, nada. No hits.

          Screenshot 2024-05-04 at 7.55.24 PM.png

          So then I turned on "Allow IP Options", reloaded the rules and watched the logs for a while. All of the IGMP traffic started logging as "pass", yippee. The state details for the rule also started clicking:

          Screenshot 2024-05-04 at 8.04.32 PM.png

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          • dennypageD
            dennypage @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in IGMP strangeness:

            As long as the ruleset is reloaded after enabling it that should work fine. Nothing there should require a reboot.

            Agreed. Only thing I could think of is that something prevented the reload from completing…

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            • Bob.DigB
              Bob.Dig LAYER 8
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              Just for completeness, here is my block rule for not "polluting" my log.

              Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 09-30-29 pfSense.aadf.de - Firewall Rules ISWITCH.png

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @Bob.Dig
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                The setting page was linked above but since I just pasted it for someone else here is the troubleshooting page:
                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/log-filter-blocked.html#packets-with-ip-options

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                  louis2 @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  Note that I did reboot the system. Thinking that that may reset states.
                  And did use options
                  And put it on the first line of the floating rules
                  And Never the less, it does not work !!
                  The IMGP package are denied in state of passed
                  PIMD is telling me that the message was refused, which is in line with that blokking

                  See also my this afternoon for you morning post!

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    This is your first post in this thread I'm not sure what you're seeing or referring to.

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                    • dennypageD
                      dennypage @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 First post is here. @bmeeks had pointed him at this thread to read.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Ah, OK. Do you have an example screenshot of the blocked rules?

                        You would still have needed IP Options set to pass that in 23.09.1. But the floating state binding probably passed it somewhere it now doesn't.

                        If you set the global state bindign back to floating does it work as before?

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @louis2
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          @louis2 also would really suggest you actually post the rules you have vs just saying you have this..

                          Users quite often say they did X, but then find out they did (Y^3+42)/12 etc.. Could be as simple as rule set to tcp vs any or igmp, etc. Or rule in floating set to outbound vs inbound or quick not selected on it

                          Picture can say 10k words in such cases.

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in IGMP strangeness:

                            You would still have needed IP Options set to pass that in 23.09.1. But the floating state binding probably passed it somewhere it now doesn't.

                            IGMP is not required for multicast to work, it just makes it more efficient. I think what is very confusing to folk is that they didn't know that IGMP was being dropped previously, and since it isn't required they saw no adverse effects. Now they are seeing IGMP drops in the logs, and on a pass rule no less. Very confusing. Many will probably not know anything about IGMP until they search the term.

                            I guess it's a great opportunity for folk to improve the efficiency of their networks. 😊

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dennypage
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                              @dennypage said in IGMP strangeness:

                              Many will probably not know anything about IGMP until they search the term.

                              They most likely won't know much more even after doing that ;) hehehe

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                              • dennypageD
                                dennypage @dennypage
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                                @dennypage said in IGMP strangeness:

                                @stephenw10 said in IGMP strangeness:

                                As long as the ruleset is reloaded after enabling it that should work fine. Nothing there should require a reboot.

                                Agreed. Only thing I could think of is that something prevented the reload from completing…

                                @stephenw10, In the other recent thread, the user indicated that after defining the rule, they needed to perform a state reset before the rule worked. Worth noting. This would also explain the situation with the user who asserted that they had to reboot.

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