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      Antibiotic @Unoptanio
      last edited by Antibiotic

      @Unoptanio Where did you get this info, by email from netgate or searching by internet or from friends?As I know this is closed now.

      pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
      CPU: Intel N100
      NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
      RAM : 16 GB DDR5
      Disk: 128 GB NVMe
      Brgds, Archi

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      • UnoptanioU
        Unoptanio @Antibiotic
        last edited by Unoptanio

        @Antibiotic
        It was advertised on the official Netgate website in the license purchasing section.
        It was priced like a normal purchase but by selecting Home or LAB and the price in the cart remained free at $0
        The serial numbers were subsequently communicated via email
        But this initiative lasted very little. Like 3 weeks.

        I was talking about a serial requested in September 2023 and not yet installed

        pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
        CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
        n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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          Antibiotic @Unoptanio
          last edited by

          @Unoptanio Oki)))

          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
          CPU: Intel N100
          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
          Brgds, Archi

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @w0w
            last edited by

            @w0w If you have the NDI and/or order number sent it to me in chat and I can check it.

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            • UnoptanioU
              Unoptanio @Antibiotic
              last edited by

              @Antibiotic

              https://www.netgate.com/blog/addressing-changes-to-pfsense-plus-homelab

              pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
              CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
              n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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              • UnoptanioU
                Unoptanio @stephenw10
                last edited by Unoptanio

                @stephenw10

                Before installing the license key I would like to make sure I have no problems. Are we sure that updates to version 24 can be done?

                In case of problems, can I go back to version 2.7.2 CE?

                For a PC-based system whitout a Netgate appliance:
                Currently, to upgrade from 2.7.2 CE to Pfsense Plus 24 is it enough to purchase the TAC LITE or do you need the TAC PRO?

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                The article does not talk about TAC LITE:

                https://www.netgate.com/blog/addressing-changes-to-pfsense-plus-homelab?_gl=11wjz3t7_gaMTkxMTAwODkwMi4xNzE1NTc2MDc3_ga_TM99KBGXCB*MTcxNTU3NjA3Ni4xLjEuMTcxNTU3NzgyNS4yLjAuMA..

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                pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                  Patch @Unoptanio
                  last edited by

                  Sounds like TAC-Lite is discontinued.

                  I thought the equivalent of TAC-lite was complimentary on Netgate hardware (software updates & forum support).

                  That really does price pfsense out of the home market / Lab market.
                  Oh well it was good while it lasted. Hope the strictly commercial market works out for Netgate, good by broad user base.

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                  • patient0P
                    patient0 @Unoptanio
                    last edited by

                    I think that info in the blog post is outdated, TAC Lite is still (or again?) available for still $129 including Zero-to-ping (see https://www.netgate.com/pfsense-plus-software/software-types).

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                    • w0wW
                      w0w @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10
                      I'll contact him and find out the numbers, or he'll register himself on tihe forum and let us know.

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                      • w0wW
                        w0w @Unoptanio
                        last edited by

                        @Unoptanio said in pfSense Plus Lab Evaluation KEY:

                        Are you saying you can't update to version 24?

                        No. But my friend in Japan can't update. He said that no new version available so far.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yeah that is outdated. TAC-lite is availabl for any device. All Plus subscription types will see 24.03. Including the zero cost options if you already have that.

                          So, yes, if you purchase TAC-Lite you will be able to upgrade to 24.03.

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                          • UnoptanioU
                            Unoptanio @stephenw10
                            last edited by Unoptanio

                            @stephenw10
                            I will try to install the LAB license and upgrade from 2.7.2 CE to PLUS 24.3

                            A last question.
                            After installing the license, subsequently,
                            on the same machine, if I had to replace the 2 SSDs due to failure and reinstall everything from scratch, is the usual license worth it? or at that point do I have to buy a new TAC LITE?
                            or if I had to add more ram

                            pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                            CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                            n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Replacing the drives would not change the NDI so the system would still be eligible for Plus.

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                                Unoptanio @stephenw10
                                last edited by Unoptanio

                                @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus Lab Evaluation KEY:

                                l'NDI

                                What are the hardware changes that change NDI?
                                Netgate Device ID (NDI)

                                pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Commonly it's changed by adding or removing NICs.

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                                  • UnoptanioU
                                    Unoptanio @stephenw10
                                    last edited by Unoptanio

                                    @stephenw10
                                    Today I contacted a Netgate distributor in Italy.
                                    It tells me that starting from the CE2.7,2 version and purchasing the TAC Lite you can upgrade to the PLUS 24.3 version
                                    After one year from the activation date of the TAC Lite, the firewall continues to work but updates are no longer performed. To be able to redo the updates, the TAC Lite must be renewed every year. This is with non-NETGATE machines.

                                    Does it work like this even if the LAB license I have is activated? or is it for life including all future updates?
                                    Or do I have to renew it with the TAC Lire after one year from the activation of the LAB license when it expires?
                                    Do you confirm that it works like this?

                                    With netgate devices the license is for life including all updates. There is no need to purchase any TAC license or even purchase renewals.

                                    pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                    CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                    n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes, that is true. Netgate hardware includes pfSense Plus for the lifetime of the device. No additional subscription required.

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                                      • w0wW
                                        w0w @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10

                                        Just for your information, my friend in Japan successfully updated both firewalls. The problem was not the license at all, as suspected. The system was stuck on version 23.05, not on 23.09. He switched branches, and it updated successfully first to 23.09 and then to the latest version.
                                        Thanks for your help.

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                                        • UnoptanioU
                                          Unoptanio @w0w
                                          last edited by Unoptanio

                                          @w0w @stephenw10

                                          OK thank you.
                                          I would like to try installing the LAB key.

                                          Once installed, do you know if the LAB key will be deactivated after one year?
                                          After a year has passed since the installation of the LAB key, will it still be possible to carry out updates?
                                          Or will you have to buy the TAC LITE?

                                          pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                          CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                          n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Home/Lab subscriptions are still valid right now but will likely be invalidated at some point. Undetermined AFAIK.

                                            Once they are invalid you would no longer be able to access the pkg repos to get updates. At that point you would need to get a new subscription.

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