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Turn on MDS Mitigation

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    markdudov
    last edited by markdudov May 29, 2024, 8:39 PM May 29, 2024, 8:04 PM

    Hello guys,

    After I turned on MDS mitigation

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    As can be seen here it is already in use

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    But for some reason after restarting the pfSense, the function MDS mitigation stopped working.
    Does anyone know what could be the cause and how it can be resolved

    Thanks in advance for your time!

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @markdudov
      last edited by johnpoz May 29, 2024, 9:37 PM May 29, 2024, 9:36 PM

      @markdudov how exactly did you set it - by manual edit the tuneables?

      You should just set it here. Advanced / Misc

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      I personally see no point to having it enabled on a firewall - but there is where you should set to what you want.

      https://forum.netgate.com/post/845431

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        markdudov @johnpoz
        last edited by May 29, 2024, 9:41 PM

        @johnpoz I haven't even noticed that it can be turned on from the Misc menu.

        Ah, do you know where Kernel PTI can also be included?

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @markdudov
          last edited by May 29, 2024, 9:44 PM

          @markdudov yeah again you can enable right there just above the mds if you want, again I see no point to turning these mitigations on a firewall appliance. But hey you do you..

          Its like being worried about someone hitting your hand with a hammer so you wear protective gloves all the time.. But you don't even own a hammer, you never hold nails for other people to use their hammers to drive in nails.

          So why should go about wearing hammer hit protection gloves?

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            markdudov @johnpoz
            last edited by May 29, 2024, 9:56 PM

            @johnpoz As far as I can see in the Misc menu there is an option to disable KPTI

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            by default it should be on, but it is disabled for me

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            How can I activate it

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by May 29, 2024, 10:00 PM

              It's only active on affected CPUs. Like it says there.

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                markdudov @stephenw10
                last edited by May 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

                @stephenw10 Sure. And can you tell me the difference between MDs Mitigation and Kernel PTI? And whether they work together or are separate functions?

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @markdudov
                  last edited by May 29, 2024, 10:26 PM

                  @markdudov are you doing a lot of hammering? These protection gloves are not needed where there is no hammer to hit your hand with..

                  Do you allow people to just run arbitrary code on your firewall? This is issues are related to shared hardware where users are running code directly on the hardware or something like a VM host where users can run there own vms..

                  These sorts of scenarios should really never be an issue on a firewall appliance.

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by May 29, 2024, 10:30 PM

                    Yes, they are really only of much value in a shared environment like if you are running as a VM or hosting VM in pfSense (don't do that!).

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