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    Antibiotic
    last edited by Jun 8, 2024, 11:23 PM

    Hello, is it possible to use from one ISP provider 2 ip on pfsense?
    If yes. how to set up this?

    pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Jun 8, 2024, 11:36 PM

      Like 2 WAN links or multiple public IPs on one WAN?

      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/additional-ip-addresses.html

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        Antibiotic @stephenw10
        last edited by Jun 8, 2024, 11:53 PM

        @stephenw10 So , understood that will work as VIP and should set on WAN in IP alias field?

        Screenshot_9-6-2024_25151_192.168.20.1.jpeg

        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
        CPU: Intel N100
        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 12:15 AM

          Yes you would add it as a IPAlias VIP on the WAN. Firewall > Virtual IPs.

          But that screenshot is from the dhcp client setup which is nothing to do with it.

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            Antibiotic @stephenw10
            last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 12:20 AM

            @stephenw10 Ah, firewall - VIP. Did search with closed eyes)))

            pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
            CPU: Intel N100
            NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
            RAM : 16 GB DDR5
            Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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              Antibiotic @stephenw10
              last edited by Antibiotic Jun 9, 2024, 12:34 AM Jun 9, 2024, 12:31 AM

              @stephenw10 This VIP should work like normal WAN IP. I mean regarding provider speed , latency and etc? Can pfBlockerNG filtering VIP? Can use pfSesne OpenVPN client on him? Like me understood IP Alias use all benefits as normal NAT.

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              CPU: Intel N100
              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
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              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10 Jun 9, 2024, 12:39 AM Jun 9, 2024, 12:38 AM

                Yes you can run services on it directly. You can add NAT rules to or from it for services or internal subnets.

                Your ISP has to provide the IP(s) though of course.

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                  Antibiotic @stephenw10
                  last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 12:52 AM

                  @stephenw10 So, lets say will have 2 WAN IP and 3 additional NIC's. Can I use ona LAN for one WAN IP and the rest 2 for other WAN IP only? or can use on one LAN this 2 WAN IP for different types of traffic?

                  pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                  CPU: Intel N100
                  NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                  RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                  Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                    Antibiotic @stephenw10
                    last edited by Antibiotic Jun 9, 2024, 12:54 AM Jun 9, 2024, 12:52 AM

                    @stephenw10 said in one ISP 2 IP:

                    Your ISP has to provide the IP(s) though of course

                    What are do you mean?

                    pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                    CPU: Intel N100
                    NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                    RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                    Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 1:52 PM

                      You can use the WAN IPs for whatever traffic you can match with outbound NAT rules. So that might be all traffic from an internal subnet. Or it could just be a single internal host.

                      Most ISPs will only provide you a single public IP unless you pay them to provide additional IPs. Actually using them does depend on how they provide it to you.

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                        JKnott @stephenw10
                        last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 1:25 PM

                        @stephenw10 said in one ISP 2 IP:

                        Most ISPs will only provide you a single public IP unless you pay them to provide additional IPs

                        My ISP (Rogers) provides two. There are two Ethernet ports on the back of the modem and they have different addresses. I don't pay extra for it. I used to use the 2nd for testing, until a pfSense update broke that. There's a thread about that here somewhere.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                          Antibiotic @JKnott
                          last edited by Antibiotic Jun 10, 2024, 3:00 PM Jun 10, 2024, 2:53 PM

                          @JKnott The same)))
                          My ISP provides also two IP. I still thinking, request or not second IP, because they will make second line in this case to my apartments and no any ideas for this moment how better to use this second IP or have benefits)))Speed will the same 1gb up/down. Could somebody provide some tips, how can use and for what second free IP?Subnet should be the same as my first IP, like me understanding better to use second pfSense interface as additional WAN, but it mean minus interface for my local subnets))) Still in doubt

                          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                          CPU: Intel N100
                          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:02 PM

                            Is it a static IP? Second dhcp lease?

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                              Antibiotic @stephenw10
                              last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:05 PM

                              @stephenw10 Both have static IP. But for this moment use over DCHP on WAN. Is any benefits to set my first IP as static, because use DCHP lease on mY local subnets?

                              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                              CPU: Intel N100
                              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                JKnott @stephenw10
                                last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:09 PM

                                @stephenw10 said in one ISP 2 IP:

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                                Is it a static IP? Second dhcp lease?

                                Mine are DHCP. For some reason, the MTU is smaller on the 2nd.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:10 PM

                                  No there's no benefit and in fact there's a good chance your ISP still requires you to pull a lease even if it passes you the same IP every time.

                                  If both IPs really are fixed then you should be able to just add the second IP as an IPAlias VIP on WAN and use it however you want.

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                                    Antibiotic @JKnott
                                    last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:21 PM

                                    @JKnott Can you set as static?and check MTU

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                                    CPU: Intel N100
                                    NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                    RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                    Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                      Antibiotic @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Antibiotic Jun 10, 2024, 3:24 PM Jun 10, 2024, 3:23 PM

                                      @stephenw10 said in one ISP 2 IP:

                                      If both IPs really are fixed

                                      Is it possible to check this on my side, without calling to ISP? Because I use as static and over DCHP and did not found any difference)))

                                      pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                      CPU: Intel N100
                                      NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                      RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                      Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                      Brgds, Archi

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                                        Antibiotic @stephenw10
                                        last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:25 PM

                                        @stephenw10 said in one ISP 2 IP:

                                        even if it passes you the same IP every time

                                        20 YEARS , have the same IP))

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                                        CPU: Intel N100
                                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 3:28 PM

                                          Ha, well that's a long lease! The fact that it can use dhcp though implies the ISP could change it. They probably just default to the same IP unless there's a reason to change.

                                          Are you spoofing the MAC address to keep that for 20yrs?

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