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If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot

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    kohenkatz
    last edited by Aug 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

    I ran into this yesterday - I unplugged my fiber ONT (Nokia/Alcatel I-211M-L on Verizon Fios) in order to put in a new battery backup. When I plugged it back in again, my pfSense box did not have any IPv6 connectivity at all until I rebooted. I plan to do some tests of the new battery to make sure it is wired properly and to see how long it will last in an outage, but I don't want to have to reboot pfSense multiple times to restore IPv6 access each time.

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      ahxcjay @kohenkatz
      last edited by Aug 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

      @kohenkatz said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

      but I don't want to have to reboot pfSense multiple times to restore IPv6 access each time.

      ..but you will. It's a bug, and one that is not being prioritised or picked up by Netgate engineers (unfortunately), despite others experiencing the exact same issue.

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        em_gerber
        last edited by Aug 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

        I have the same issue. As soon as the bridge goes down pfSense completely removes IPv6. I was able to implement a "workaround". I added a switch between the bridge and pfSense. Now, if the bridge goes down IPv6 remains. For me it seems somehow L2 related, pfSense removes IPv6 completely if the port goes down...

        But I agree, this bug should defenitely prioritised and fixed.

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          ahxcjay @em_gerber
          last edited by Aug 30, 2023, 9:03 PM

          @em_gerber good grief - just tried it. Adding a switch between ONT & FW resolves ip6 not recovering.

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            JKnott @ahxcjay
            last edited by Aug 31, 2023, 1:31 AM

            @ahxcjay said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

            good grief - just tried it. Adding a switch between ONT & FW resolves ip6 not recovering.

            If you put a managed switch there, you can use it to monitor the traffic, using Wireshark. PfSense has Packet Capture, but I find it much better to use Wireshark. Five port managed switches are cheap and you can configure one to act as a data tap.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              ahxcjay @JKnott
              last edited by Aug 31, 2023, 5:23 AM

              If you put a managed switch there, you can use it to monitor the traffic, using Wireshark. PfSense has Packet Capture, but I find it much better to use Wireshark. Five port managed switches are cheap and you can configure one to act as a data tap.

              Really? You can actually tap off a managed switch? Blimey. I had no idea.

              Any other basic tips to pass on in a forum full of mostly networking experts..?

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                JKnott @ahxcjay
                last edited by Aug 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

                @ahxcjay said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                Really? You can actually tap off a managed switch? Blimey. I had no idea.

                The only caution is with connection speeds approaching 1 Gb and in both directions if on fibre, you could run into overflow problems, where there's more data than the switch can pass to the monitor computer, unless you get a faster switch and NIC on the computer. My own connection is 1 Gb down (actually 1.5 Gb but limited by hardware) and 50 up, so I'm OK for now.

                BTW, I first came across that monitor function over 15 years ago, when I was working with Adtran switches.

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  JacktheSmack
                  last edited by JacktheSmack Jun 8, 2024, 8:42 PM Jun 8, 2024, 8:27 PM

                  OK now I am having a new problem related to this. IPV6 addresses are all set and everything, but I have 100% packet loss. If I reboot the router, it's still stuck.

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                  But if I turn off the router and modem, wait 10 seconds, then turn the both back on, then IPV6 works, with one caveat: The gateway display shows 100% packet loss for IPV4, even though it works perfectly fine.

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                  If I reboot the router, I once again get 100% packet loss with IPV6 and it doesn't work for the router or any devices on the network.

                  One interesting quirk is initially, for the first second or two, there is no packet loss, but then there is full packet loss after that. Which is why in my screenshot it's not 100%, because of the initial packets that get through. But eventually it works its way up to 100%.

                  Also I just tried turning off just the router (not the modem), waiting 10 seconds, then turning it back on. Now both work, but there was 10-15% packet loss for the first few minutes. But now it's settled down to 5-10%, which is still bad.

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                  Speed test seems fine though.

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                  Same with videogames

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                    JacktheSmack @JacktheSmack
                    last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 2:59 AM

                    7 hours later packet loss is now at 0%. Issue still remains: Rebooting the router breaks IPV6

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                      JacktheSmack
                      last edited by JacktheSmack Jul 6, 2024, 5:44 PM Jul 6, 2024, 5:43 PM

                      My ipv6 stopped working again and all the above attempts did not fix it. I learned that since I am using the CE version of pfSense, even if this is fixed I won't be seeing any updates. That's unfortunate. I had to stop using pfSense because my internet would not fully work and it kept randomly breaking. I'm sorry.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JacktheSmack
                        last edited by Jul 6, 2024, 10:41 PM

                        @JacktheSmack said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                        even if this is fixed I won't be seeing any updates

                        Where do people get such stuff from? CE isn't going anywhere, the next version 2.8 is being worked on

                        https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/roadmap

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                          Gertjan @johnpoz
                          last edited by Jul 7, 2024, 5:43 AM

                          @johnpoz said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                          Where do people get such stuff from?

                          Tic-toc ?
                          Still, strange. Installing and using a core system that you know of will be the latest version with neither follow up or maintenance.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                            last edited by Jul 7, 2024, 10:02 AM

                            @Gertjan said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                            Tic-toc ?

                            hahah - yeah the definitive source for tech news ;)

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                              JacktheSmack @johnpoz
                              last edited by Jul 15, 2024, 10:28 PM

                              @johnpoz said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                              Where do people get such stuff from? CE isn't going anywhere, the next version 2.8 is being worked on

                              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/versions.html The release cadence has slowed down significantly from when I started using pfSense in 2014 or 2015.

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JacktheSmack
                                last edited by johnpoz Jul 15, 2024, 11:04 PM Jul 15, 2024, 10:58 PM

                                @JacktheSmack said in If internet goes down, IPV6 won't work until reboot:

                                The release cadence has slowed down significantly from when I started using pfSense in 2014 or 2015.

                                Slow down doesn't mean going away.. The product has come a long way since then, lots more to it.. Plus there is + and TNSR, their release schedule has always been when it ready really.

                                If you want faster releases, move to plus.. ;)

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