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      Nimizu
      last edited by

      @stephenw10 said in communication between vlan:

      ping -S 192.168.102.1 8.8.8.8

      I tried, but again the same result.

      I pinged directly into the pfsense shell:

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      mais je vois toujours uniquement ce résultat meme en regardant en meme temps que le ping :

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, are you 100% sure that's the same firewall? There is almost no way to have it not open a state for that ping whilst also opening a state for the monitoring pings. You would have to set a rule to pass pings without opening a state. Which is possible but pretty advanced!

        Unless that state view is filtered?

        You should see like:

        [24.08-DEVELOPMENT][admin@6100.stevew.lan]/root: ping 1.1.1.1
        PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1): 56 data bytes
        64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=25.121 ms
        64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=5.349 ms
        64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=5.644 ms
        64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=5.487 ms
        64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=6.221 ms
        
        [24.08-DEVELOPMENT][admin@6100.stevew.lan]/root: pfctl -vss | grep -A 1 1.1.1.1:
        ix3 icmp 172.21.16.246:64122 -> 1.1.1.1:8       0:0
           age 00:00:58, expires in 00:00:10, 59:59 pkts, 4956:4956 bytes, rule 119, allow-opts
        
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          Nimizu
          last edited by

          yes I am indeed on the same firewall.

          I tried to do what you just did and I got this result :

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Ok, good. You should see that in the gui also if it's not filtered.

            You should also see states for pings between VLANs with the correct filtering.

            If not try that at the command line too.

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              Nimizu
              last edited by

              yes indeed on the graphical interface I see this clearly but as I showed you this is what is there on the graphical interface and which corresponds to the result that I sent previously.

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              I receive dozens of packets every second in this state even though no ping is in progress

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Nimizu
                last edited by

                @Nimizu said in communication between vlan:

                I receive dozens of packets every second in this state even though no ping is in progress

                Again you are not receiving those, that is the monitoring that pfsense does where it send 1 ping every half second. You must of setup your monitoring to use 8.8.8.8 vs your actual default gateway.. You can clearly see the destination is 8.8.8.8 so its the dpinger service doing its monitoring.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Start a ping from some client on one of the internal VLANs to 1.1.1.1.

                  Then look for the states created in the GUI and at the CLI like you just did.

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                    Nimizu
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz
                    Yes i uderstand.

                    @stephenw10

                    I just took the test and got this result :

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Nimizu
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      @Nimizu so something wrong with the gui not showing the states.. But something odd.. is looks like that output shows ALL for the interface?

                      Which maybe explains why gui not showing them???

                      interface.jpg

                      Notice mine shows igb0 and igb1 my lan and wan interfaces.. Not sure why your output shows all vs some specific interface.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        Because 24.03 switched (back) to interface bound states as default. In 2.7.2 and 23.09 states are floating on 'all' interfaces. So that looks correct.

                        You should see those states in the GUI if you filter that by 1.1.1.1 also.

                        That traffic is passing through the firewall and should be blockable.

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                          Nimizu
                          last edited by Nimizu

                          let's go. I finally see on the GUI.

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                          I now tried to ping a client that is in another vlan and I got this result:

                          0e959d34-7b28-4224-a38b-7d5f6d3a5260-image.png

                          So I tried to make the blocking rules and when I do the following rule this blocks the ping :

                          9e32d05e-7152-49cd-953d-e0944125b0f2-image.png

                          thank you very much for your help but I don't understand everything because I just reactivated the rules that I had already made and now it works and before it didn't work.

                          But the importance and that now it works. THANKS

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Nimizu
                            last edited by

                            @Nimizu think we went down a deep rabbit whole there on the states not being in the gui.. You were filtering?

                            Once a state is created the state allows, so if you test something and then try to block it - you have to make sure you either kill that state or wait for it to timeout or close on its own. Before your rule will work.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Mmm, I'm not sure what happened there. It seems like either the traffic was bypassing the firewall entirely and now isn't for some reason. Or we were just not looking correctly.

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                                Nimizu
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz @stephenw10

                                I didn't put any filter or just icmp and I didn't see anything but the end result is that it works. I'm going to test on other firewalls to see if I encounter the same problem.

                                But it works, thank you.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Hmm, something must have changed. If nothing changed in the firewall/switch it must have been in a client somehow.

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