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    Netgear 6100 for Home use, new work PC seeing all my network media !!

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    • _Rick_
      _Rick @Gblenn
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      @Gblenn Hi,
      yes, when I'm in the work PC, when I open the Chrome I got this in upper right:
      Chrome_1.png

      If I click on it:
      Chrome_2.png

      So it is clear that Chrome has access to my local (Same LAN) access to all the devices informations.

      In any case, thank you, I'll get a VLan switch and it will isolate that one.

      Have a good one.
      Richard.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        If you have a Netgate 6100 you could just connect that PC to one of the other ports. Set that up as an isolated subnet.

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          Gblenn @_Rick
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          @_Rick said in Netgear 6100 for Home use, new work PC seeing all my network media !!:

          @Gblenn Hi,
          yes, when I'm in the work PC, when I open the Chrome I got this in upper right:
          Chrome_1.png

          If I click on it:
          Chrome_2.png

          So it is clear that Chrome has access to my local (Same LAN) access to all the devices informations.

          In any case, thank you, I'll get a VLan switch and it will isolate that one.

          Have a good one.
          Richard.

          You are casting from your Shield aren't you? Cast is a Google Chrome application so Chrome is not having " access to local (Same LAN) access to all the devices informations.". You are simply seeing what the Cast Application is doing in your network. If you were to stream Netflix or play a game on that same Shield, you would not see that in Chrome, or any other browser or application...

          However, no other person or application can see what you are seeing on the screen, unless they have eyes on that same screen...

          A super simple solution would be to just use a different browser on your work PC... Anyone that doesn't have Google Cast as an extension.

          But if you want, on your work PC go to chrome://flags/ and disable these cast related functions.

          • Global Media Controls for Cast start/stop
          • Load Media Router Component Extension
          • Cast Media Route Provider

          Possibly the first one is enough... Restart your browser and you should no longer be able to use cast on that browser.

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          • _Rick_
            _Rick @Gblenn
            last edited by _Rick

            Hi @Gblenn
            thank you for the information, I knew this before, it just my company use Microsoft Teams to "more or less" see if we, as employees, are really working or not at home.
            I know Teams can listen to the microphone and open up the camera work PC and I did find out they review the movement of the mouse and what is keyed on the keyboard.

            I'm not sure how far they go on their side to search, but it is scary a bit that I know my company can do that.

            In any case, if I see on Chrome work pc, that use VPN, my Shield on the same Lan, they can definitly scan for other things.
            That is what I want to eliminate, so I'm searching for a VLan Switch next week.

            The other 3 lans are for other security camera, domotic and media stuff and I can't change it now.

            For the Chrome options, I cannot change it as it is adminstrated by my company too.

            Thank you for your review, have a good one.
            Richard.

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            • _Rick_
              _Rick @stephenw10
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              Hi @stephenw10,
              your right, and I knew this before asking the question, the other 3 lans are for other security camera, domotic and media stuff and I can't change it now.

              I'm getting a new VLan switch next week and until i can isolate the work pc, that should owrk fine.

              Thank you again, have a good one.
              Richard.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                You are using both WAN ports already too?

                Otherwise, yes, a VLAN capable switch will allow you to add more subnets.

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                  Gblenn @_Rick
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                  @_Rick said in Netgear 6100 for Home use, new work PC seeing all my network media !!:

                  Hi @Gblenn
                  thank you for the information, I knew this before, it just my company use Microsoft Teams to "more or less" see if we, as employees, are really working or not at home.
                  I know Teams can listen to the microphone and open up the camera work PC and I did find out they review the movement of the mouse and what is keyed on the keyboard.

                  I'm not sure how far they go on their side to search, but it is scary a bit that I know my company can do that.

                  In any case, if I see on Chrome work pc, that use VPN, my Shield on the same Lan, they can definitly scan for other things.
                  That is what I want to eliminate, so I'm searching for a VLan Switch next week.

                  The other 3 lans are for other security camera, domotic and media stuff and I can't change it now.

                  For the Chrome options, I cannot change it as it is adminstrated by my company too.

                  Thank you for your review, have a good one.
                  Richard.

                  Hmm, I think you are overly concerned about some of the things here. Your company can only see your status on Teams. If you are online, offline etc, nothing more and nothing less. Same as you can see that about all your colleagues...
                  You don't believe Microsoft would implement a back door in Teams or any of their applications do you? Something that would allow them or anyone to spy on people via the camera or microphone. Just think about the legal implications if that came out, and the lawsuits that would result from such practice.

                  Cortana can listen to your microphone yes, if you activate it in Teams. In the same way Siri or Alexa will "listen" to your commands. But your company would have no information or data from that whatsoever... unless your company is actually Microsoft...

                  And, there is no way they, whoever they are, can "scan" your LAN from your PC to see what you are doing there. The only thing that can be seen from your PC is your network topology and devices. But nothing about what they are actually doing... Not even pfsense can see into end to end encrypted traffic, even though it actually passes through pfsense. And nothing of that traffic passes through your PC...

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                  • _Rick_
                    _Rick @Gblenn
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                    Hi @Gblenn,
                    Thank you for your note, I was sure too before I saw reports that I wasn't supose to see.

                    In any case, I'm getting a VLan Switch this week and it wi resolve my current situation.

                    Thank you again.
                    Richard.

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                    • _Rick_
                      _Rick @stephenw10
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                      Hi @stephenw10,
                      No and I understand your point, I cannot use an extra port right now until next year or so.

                      For now, a VLan switch will do.
                      Thank you for the sugestion, have a good one.
                      Richard.

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                        Gblenn @_Rick
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                        @_Rick said in Netgear 6100 for Home use, new work PC seeing all my network media !!:

                        Hi @Gblenn,
                        Thank you for your note, I was sure too before I saw reports that I wasn't supose to see.

                        Meaning what exactly? A secret report about what?

                        It is one thing making claims about your employer being able to read logs from your work PC or know what applications are running or installed on it. Or even the possibility of the employer having keyloggers and other capturing SW to literally spy on their employees. But active monitoring without your knowledge/conscent... no, in most countries that isn't even remotely possible...

                        Claiming that they have the ability to secretly use your camera via Teams... Think about that for a second, from the perspective of Micrsoft..

                        Same thing saying that your company is able to use your Work PC to see what is going on in your home network and what you are doing on other PC's or devices (not your work PC). That is simply not possible!
                        Not even pfsense knows about what goes on unless traffic is actually routed through pfsense. And still it can't see into encrypted traffic.

                        The only way they could get any detailed information is if you have installed company SW on your other (private) PCs and devices. Software that would need to be specifically designed to work on each one, like the Nvidia Shield to backdoor into it and see what is going on...
                        But I'm pretty sure this is not what you are thinking is it?

                        In any case, I'm getting a VLan Switch this week and it wi resolve my current situation.

                        Sure, you will no longer be able to access or control your Cast enabled devices at home, from your Work PC. But if you still belive your company can listen to your microphone, it doesn't matter which LAN/VLAN you place it in. They would anyway be able to know what you are listning to, or which movie you are watching...

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                        • _Rick_
                          _Rick @Gblenn
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                          Hi @Gblenn ,
                          thank you for your information, I just find out they use a split tunelling VPN .... so some of the software on the work PC pass through the VPN.

                          So that is why Chrome see the Chrome-cast on my Lan.

                          Your right they ca do whatever they want on that PC.

                          The document I saw was not for me to view, it was an error, but I had time to see a quick 2 sec results.

                          Again, thank you for your information.

                          I have my response a long time ago : can we stop this thread now?

                          Thank you all, Richard.

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