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    Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      The increased php load from dashboard widgets in 24.11 is probably the most noticeable thing on a 2100.

      Are you running ZFS? If so you can trivially roll back so... try it!

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee
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        I was researching there is a if you use the WiFi compex driver issues I am told.

        Make sure to upvote

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          netboy @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

          Are you running ZFS?

          Yes I am running ZFS. Is there an issue with this update runnning ZFS?

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          • GPinzoneG
            GPinzone
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            I was thinking about starting a thread like this. I have a Netgate 4100 and after the recent pfBlockerNG fiasco, I'm ignoring the orange flashing light for now.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @GPinzone
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              @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

              after the recent pfBlockerNG fiasco

              What exactly was that? Bug link?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @netboy
                last edited by

                @netboy said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                Yes I am running ZFS. Is there an issue with this update runnning ZFS?

                No. If you're running ZFS when it upgrades a new BE will be created. That means that if you find some show stopping problem you can trivially just select to boot the old BE to go back to 24.03 exactly as it is now. So the risk is minimal.

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                • GPinzoneG
                  GPinzone @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                  @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                  after the recent pfBlockerNG fiasco

                  What exactly was that? Bug link?

                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190231/updating-pfblockerng-devel-on-23-09-caused-instability-upgrading-to-23-09-1-w-3-2-0_8-solved-it

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                    netboy @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 Thanks
                    Does Netgate test all these updates thoroughly? IMHO, they have to really up their testing.....I am not going to update the version.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                      https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190231/updating-pfblockerng-devel-on-23-09-caused-instability-upgrading-to-23-09-1-w-3-2-0_8-solved-it

                      Ah OK. Well that was a pkg issue and in the development version specifically. It would have affected you whether or not you upgraded the pfSense version.

                      But if you're running ZFS you can create a BE at any time and roll back if a package update has issues for you.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        I have personally upgraded a 2100 many times between various versions and 24.11. And I have several deliberately complex configs that I'd not expect to ever find in a real-world system.

                        I would have no doubts about upgrading a production 2100 at this point. But I would still backup the config and make sure I have good BE snap before doing so.

                        The only issues I'm aware of are with the Squid package, which is deprecated. And, as mentioned above, if you have added WiFi hardware and are coming from 23.09.1 you may see problems. That would have failed in 24.03 though.

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                        • GPinzoneG
                          GPinzone @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                          @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190231/updating-pfblockerng-devel-on-23-09-caused-instability-upgrading-to-23-09-1-w-3-2-0_8-solved-it

                          Ah OK. Well that was a pkg issue and in the development version specifically. It would have affected you whether or not you upgraded the pfSense version.

                          But if you're running ZFS you can create a BE at any time and roll back if a package update has issues for you.

                          The point is that it should have never been released. There's no way adequate testing was done. It caused my Netgate to become unusable and I had to restore everything from backup. That's not how things are supposed to work.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            It was an update to the development version of the package. But, yes, we should have caught that failure.

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @stephenw10
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              @stephenw10 if Squid fixed the major issues with version 7 is the Squid package going to still be supported ?

                              Make sure to upvote

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Probably not. But anything's possible.

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                                  netboy @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 I am in the process of backuping up to upgrade.

                                  As per instructions I backed up XML files
                                  (screenshot below) and somewhere here it says "BE backup" - how do I do this? BE is probably boot environment?
                                  7ea49830-225d-4680-897c-de8a19f645f5-image.png

                                  And in the instructions it says make sure you have enough space (in case of ZFS) since it retains previous environment. Here is my screenshot: Should delete any of the ones below?

                                  e93065d8-487c-437b-b5ca-1d70438cfd27-image.png

                                  Are there any other backups I must take before upgrade from 24.03 to 24.11? Please advice.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    The ZFS upgrade process will automatically create a new BE when it runs so you shouldn't need to do anything there. But you can create new BE yourself if you want to, just use the 'quick create' button.

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                                      netboy @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 What is this message?
                                      "Another instance of pfSense-upgrade is running. Please try again in a few moments."

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                                        netboy @netboy
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                                        @netboy Tried after some time - SUCCESS!

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                                        Approx 12 minutes for upgrade from 24.03 to 24.11 - Upgrade went smooth. If there are issues shall report

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                                        • JonathanLeeJ
                                          JonathanLee
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                                          If you have a 2100 with a mpcie to NVMe adapter the software won’t update because the driver for NVMe causes issues during updates, but I think I am the only one that has a NVMe in a 2100 by way of an adapter.

                                          Make sure to upvote

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                                            netboy @JonathanLee
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                                            @JonathanLee I do not have an NVMe

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