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    "pkg: out of space" on mostly empty CF card

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      beatvjiking @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 that's interesting. This unit has had a 64GB CF card in it for ~10 years and only had an issue now, but even when I swapped it for a brand new one and did a fresh install of 24.11, it still had the same issue. I know back in the day we needed to use a specific image to install on CF, I wonder if I'm hitting a corner case of 1) the original CF card began to fail and 2) the latest installer doesn't know how to do CF geometry for booting anymore? Because if I install with MBR (using UFS or ZFS), it gets to the loader that offers the F1, F2, and F6 options, but won't go beyond that. GPT partitioning doesn't get that far, but I seem to remember using it before (and the BIOS offers the option to drop into an EFI shell, which would say to me it does at least support GPT booting).

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yeah it feels like it might be an edge case you're hitting there. Almost no-one will be using a CF that size. I don't think we ever shipped anything larger than 8GB.

        Also I'm almost certain that CF card is not running at the UDMA5 it reports. Almost all CF slots were missing the pins to actually enable UDMA. Way back when the driver used to show that.

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          abs0new Rebel Alliance
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          hey. i got a similar issue by upgrading 24.05 > 24.11 . after deleting unused boot environment it upgraded smoothly.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yes, if you're actually out of space because the drive is filled with BE snaps it will also show that error.

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              NOCling
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              The C2k Intel Aroms are run into some LPC problems and die.
              But it start strange, some can be recovered with a 100Ohm resistor.

              Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                But that's unrelated to boot media. I would not expect that to ever present like this.

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                  beatvjiking
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                  I didn't have any unused BEs or anything, the card was almost entirely clear. It was something else. Also not the C2k bug, I've dealt with over a hundred machines with that, and rescued most with the resistor trick :) I'm hoping to give the machine another go with a SATA drive tomorrow, I finally found the floppy->SATA power cable needed for this weird little board.

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                    beatvjiking
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                    I found the problem - I tried reinstalling with an archived copy of the old standalone 24.03 installer, selected BIOS+Active, and boom - booted. The new installer doesn't have the ability to boot these older boxes. So I was running into a cascade of issues - first, my CF card failed, then the installer wasn't able to set up the hardware to boot properly.

                    There might be other options the old installer could do that let this machine boot - I know there were a bunch of options - I wonder if they could be added back to the new installer to give us the ability to keep this otherwise in-spec hardware running.

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                      beatvjiking @beatvjiking
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                      Also, forgot to mention, it upgraded to 24.11 no problem :)

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Hmm, so the net installer doesn't boot at all? IIRC there were some quirks on those older boxes to allow it to boot.

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                          beatvjiking @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 the net installer boots from USB, but installations don’t boot. If I use pure MBR it gets to the old F1/F2/F6 prompt but won’t go further.

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