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      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
      last edited by michmoor

      Confused by the redmine i found

      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11975
      This states its a duplicate of 7800
      Remine 7800 says its part of "3.0"...

      So is this possible?

      edit: If NAT logging isn't supported, then what is the workaround ?

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        On an inbound NAT rule an associated firewall rule will only be hit if NAT is happening so you can just enable logging there.

        Otherwise you can use pflow data to log all connections through the firewall.
        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/pflow.html

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 I have pflow working but it doesn't have data about Source or Destination NAT at least within the Netflow v5 records. So not sure how pflow helps in this.

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            kprovost @michmoor
            last edited by

            @michmoor That's expected. Netflow v5 does not support NAT44 (or IPv6 for that matter) information. Only IPFix does.

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @kprovost
              last edited by

              @kprovost Copy that. Ok i'll make adjustments to the collector.

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                last edited by

                @kprovost @stephenw10

                Can confirm i am seeing the additional fields using IPFix.

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                  mcury @michmoor
                  last edited by

                  @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                  @kprovost @stephenw10

                  Can confirm i am seeing the additional fields using IPFix.

                  According to RFC 8158, the fields you need are:

                  postNATSourceIPv4Address
                  postNAPTSourceTransportPort
                  postNATDestinationIPv4Address
                  postNAPTDestinationTransportPort

                  I'm also playing with it right now

                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                    last edited by

                    @mcury Let me know what you come up with in Graylog.

                    Its parsed automatically which is great but not sure how to utilize this data. Reporting?

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                      mcury @michmoor
                      last edited by

                      @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                      @mcury Let me know what you come up with in Graylog.

                      Its parsed automatically which is great but not sure how to utilize this data. Reporting?

                      pfSense is sending the data correctly, I'll try to create an extractor for those fields..

                      6ee610ec-fc25-4072-b97b-dba5371681ff-image.png

                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                        last edited by

                        @mcury

                        Its already parsed for me

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                          mcury @michmoor
                          last edited by

                          @michmoor
                          67b0bb1a-8be3-4ded-807c-7449b7104a76-image.png

                          So you got it. 👍
                          Weird, I don't have those here.. Any tip of what I should do ?

                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                            last edited by

                            @mcury Graylog did it for me. For the input i selected IPFIX UDP

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                              mcury @michmoor
                              last edited by mcury

                              @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                              @mcury Graylog did it for me. For the input i selected IPFIX UDP

                              Also using that input.

                              Did you enable tracking on the firewall rule that is associated with the NAT rule ?

                              Ohh, disregard that.
                              It is working here..

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                              dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                                last edited by

                                @mcury The only piece i dont know how to do is actually display data to show top talkers.
                                each IPfix record shows bytes which is great but i would like a table that shows all the fields plus the amount of data seen cumulative.

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                                  mcury @michmoor
                                  last edited by mcury

                                  @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                                  The only piece i dont know how to do is actually display data to show top talkers.
                                  each IPfix record shows bytes which is great but i would like a table that shows all the fields plus the amount of data seen cumulative.

                                  hmm, as I see it, you would nee to create a widget with the search field:

                                  Example if the destination host is in the 192.168.255.0/24 subnet.
                                  postNATSourceIPv4Address:192.168.255.* OR postNATDestinationIPv4Address:192.168.255.*

                                  c41e8893-3c35-415f-87a6-66fe650e1f35-image.png

                                  Then, as per picture above, filter by destination or source (this will give you the external users data), use SUM and Data Table.

                                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                                    last edited by

                                    @mcury Ok yeah thats the way to go BUT....i have to use NetFlow as netflow already has bytes parsed in the output while IPFix does not.

                                    Still figuring out how to normalize the nf_bytes column to megabytes

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                                      mcury @michmoor
                                      last edited by mcury

                                      @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                                      Still figuring out how to normalize the nf_bytes column to megabytes

                                      Try this pipeline rule:

                                      rule "arithmetic"
                                      when
                                      has_field("octetDeltaCount")
                                      then
                                      let size_kb = to_double($message.octetDeltaCount);
                                      set_field("size_bytes", size_kb / to_double(value:"1048576"));
                                      end
                                      

                                      This will give you something like this:

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                                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                                        last edited by

                                        @mcury Not sure if its working to be honest.
                                        There are no errors showing up in the pipeline so messages are being processed.

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                                        Message:
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                                          mcury @michmoor
                                          last edited by mcury

                                          @michmoor said in NAT Logs:

                                          @mcury Not sure if its working to be honest.
                                          There are no errors showing up in the pipeline so messages are being processed.

                                          Did you edit the pipeline connections and assigned to the ipfix stream ?

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                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mcury
                                            last edited by

                                            @mcury
                                            Im on Graylog 6.0.5

                                            Yes my pipeline is connected to my stream. Im using Netflow data just for testing.

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