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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      hockeyfreak @johnpoz
      last edited by hockeyfreak

      @johnpoz Nice. Thanks. I am running UFS. So the clean install will switch me to ZFS? Is it the same OS I'm on now?

      Another question, I have this mini PC sitting there running PFSense only. Am I underutilizing it? Are there other things I could be running on it? Or should I leave it as the manager of my network alone?

      [2.7.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: df -Th
      Filesystem                                       Type     Size    Used   Avail C                      apacity  Mounted on
      /dev/gptid/2873b579-a2f3-11ea-9d5c-00e0671e0eb0  ufs      111G    2.3G    100G                           2%    /
      devfs                                            devfs    1.0K    1.0K      0B                         100%    /dev
      tmpfs                                            tmpfs    4.0M    120K    3.9M                           3%    /var/run
      devfs                                            devfs    1.0K    1.0K      0B                         100%    /var/dhcpd/dev
      
      
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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @hockeyfreak
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        @hockeyfreak not sure how much horsepower your little mini has.. But if you want to run other stuff on it along with pfsense, you would really need to install some VM hosting software like proxmox or something and then run pfsense as a vm on it.

        2.7.2 will still be version 14 of freebsd.

        Yes when you do a clean install ZFS will be an option to use vs UFS.

        I use to run pfsense as vm - and there are some advantages sure.. But there are plenty other advantages to running it on own hardware.. Like any time you have/want to upgrade your VM hosting software you don't loose internet ;) is a big one if you ask me.

        Also just so you know version 2.8 of CE version of pfsense should be coming out soon.. But once you clean install 2.7.2 when it does come out you should just be able to do an upgrade.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          If you're stuck on 2.7.0 there is a known bug. Run: certctl rehash then recheck.

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            hockeyfreak @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 Yes, I tried that during my rabbit hole dive, and I think that's the one that finally got me to be able to get past all the download errors. Then I ran into the space error I'm dealing with now. I appreciate the response though!!

            @johnpoz CPU: Intel Quad Core Celeron J3160, 64 bit, up to 2.2GHz, AES-NI hardware support. That's exactly what I was thinking, Proxmox. I was thinking I could offload Unifi Controller, Home Assistant, Nextcloud, Radarr, Sonarr, and all the other services supporting my Plex server on it. I have to keep Win11 on my Server for Drivepool (10HDD), Blue Iris, and Plex though, but all those other small programs may be OK on it I would think. Thanks for any thoughts you may have.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @hockeyfreak
              last edited by johnpoz

              @hockeyfreak drivepool - big fan, run it on my pc.. for drives I have in my das.. Great product, great service support. Been running that and there scanning software for years. Just looked been running it since 2012 ;) Money well spent for sure - I was toying with moving away from windows on my main PC, and drivepool was one of things that kept me on windows... Man I wish they would release support for linux.. Tied with their scanner software, it has saved me some aggravation of having to restore files from backup when it auto migrated data off a disk that was showing signs of failure.

              I run all that little crap on my nas, where my plex runs via either a vm or dockers. Like I said I use to run pfsense as a vm for many years - but honestly would never go back.. Run my router/firewall on its own hardware is better choice. And then I run other vms of pfsense to play with, etc.

              For nvr and my cameras - I run on its own hardware.. So if you reboot your pc for an update to windows - your cameras are not recording.. I mean a few minutes guess is not a big deal, etc. But windows could decide to update off hours in the middle of the night - and that is exactly when something happens you want to have been caught by your cameras ;)

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @hockeyfreak
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                @hockeyfreak said in Really confused about upgrade:

                Is that why there are two branches?

                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/general/plus.html

                What is the exact error about space?

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  hockeyfreak @SteveITS
                  last edited by hockeyfreak

                  @SteveITS When I run pfSense-upgrade from SSH, this is the response.
                  (When I try to post all the code, it flags the post as spam, so I summarized.)

                  [2.7.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: pfSense-upgrade
                  
                  BUNCH OF DOWNLOADS AND STUFF
                  
                  Number of packages to be removed: 3
                  Number of packages to be installed: 9
                  Number of packages to be upgraded: 80
                  Number of packages to be reinstalled: 1
                  
                  The process will require 368 MiB more space.
                  >>> Downloading pkg...
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                    hockeyfreak @johnpoz
                    last edited by hockeyfreak

                    @johnpoz Yup, love DP and DS. I wish Scanner had built-in repair though. If it does, I haven't found how to activate it. It just reports that one of my drives has a bad sector, but doesn't fix it...

                    A Buddy of mine sent me this after reading my posts. He has all this stuff running at his house also.

                    "Proxmox will be the OS that you put on the system. It will house all of your Virtual Machines (Windows, Linux, etc.) that have their own kernel and resources. It can also house LXC which are lightweight containers that share the kernel with Proxmox.

                    So… Proxmox then inside Proxmox would be
                    VM1 - PfSense
                    VM2 - Ubuntu with docker installed on it
                    In Docker, install arr shit and other containers
                    LXC1 - Uptime Kuma to monitor"

                    I also need Nextcloud, Unifi controller, and Home Assistant. I guess that would be VM3, VM4, and VM5, or I guess other Dockers

                    I may upgrade the Mini with the Celeron I have to this one to handle the extra load. https://a.co/d/5dVbkai
                    CPU: N5105 Quad Core CPU at 2.0 GHz (Turbo 2.9 GHz), AES-NI hardware support
                    PORTS: 4 ports (4x I226-V 2.5G NICs), 4x USB 3.0 Type A, 1x USB Type C Console, 1x HDMI
                    COMPONENTS: 8GB LPDDR4 RAM on-board, 32GB eMMC on-board

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Can you up[load the error output to pastebin or similar?

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                        hockeyfreak @stephenw10
                        last edited by hockeyfreak

                        @stephenw10 https://pastebin.com/DfaYGxRM

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @hockeyfreak
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                          @hockeyfreak look here

                          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/184661/unable-to-upgrade-from-2-7-1-to-2-7-2-unmounting-boot-efi-done-failed

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Yup, specifically @jimp's post here: https://forum.netgate.com/post/1140955

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                              hockeyfreak @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 Yes, that's the one I read and referenced in the 3rd post above. I can't do it now though because I'm not local until the weekend and I would be tarred and feathered by my daughters if I took the internet down for days while I was away. Also, I would much rather nuke it and set it up like @johnpoz and I discussed above.

                              One final question. I agree with @johnpoz that running PFSense alone on that device is probably preferable. I was thinking of buying another more powerful Mini Computer and loading all those other things that I need running all the time and don't want to ever be reliant on Windows 11 and all the updates and crashes that come with it. Do you think I'm overthinking this or is it a good idea? It seems to be a cheap, efficient, always-on computer I can use to load things like that.

                              I want to thank all of you for your help and suggestions. I hope I have a good enough grasp on it to proceed this weekend, or barring family activities, next weekend. I last set this up in 2019, and not doing it for 5 years makes a lot of things fuzzy.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @hockeyfreak
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                                @hockeyfreak said in Really confused about upgrade:

                                I would be tarred and feathered

                                Ha best avoid that then! And yes reinstalling is the better option here if you can. 👍

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