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    Mixing different NIC Speeds (1Gb & 10Gb) Performance Problem Question

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      ngr2001 @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

      I am not using any layer 3 features that I am aware of right now, thus I guess it should be in layer 2. I do have flow control enabled on the switch though.

      SSH@romulus#show run
      Current configuration:
      !
      ver 08.0.95pT213
      !
      stack unit 1
      module 1 icx7250-48-port-management-module
      module 2 icx7250-sfp-plus-8port-80g-module
      stack-port 1/2/1
      stack-port 1/2/3
      !

      vlan 1 name DEFAULT-VLAN by port
      router-interface ve 1
      !
      !
      symmetrical-flow-control enable
      !
      optical-monitor
      optical-monitor non-ruckus-optic-enable
      aaa authentication web-server default local
      aaa authentication login default local
      enable aaa console
      hostname romulus
      ip dhcp-client disable
      ip dns server-address 10.0.0.1
      ip route 0.0.0.0/0 10.0.0.1
      !
      no telnet server
      !

      clock timezone us Eastern
      !
      !
      ntp
      disable serve
      server time.cloudflare.com
      !
      !
      no web-management http
      !
      manager disable
      !
      !
      manager port-list 987
      !
      !
      interface ethernet 1/1/4
      flow-control neg-on
      !
      interface ethernet 1/1/8
      flow-control neg-on
      !
      interface ethernet 1/1/48
      flow-control neg-on
      !
      interface ethernet 1/2/1
      flow-control neg-on
      !
      interface ethernet 1/2/8
      flow-control neg-on
      !
      interface ve 1
      ip address 10.0.0.3 255.255.255.0
      !

      ip ssh idle-time 120
      !
      end
      SSH@romulus#

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        ngr2001 @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10

        So I believe I upgraded to the Layer 3 firmware and enabled it from what I recall.

        HW: Stackable ICX7250-48

        UNIT 1: SL 1: ICX7250-48 48-port Management Module

          Software Package: **ICX7250_L3_SOFT_PACKAGE**
          Current License: l3-prem-8X10G
          P-ASIC  0: type B344, rev 01  Chip BCM56344_A0
        
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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Right. As long as it's not actually routing that shouldn't matter.

          It sure seems like it's failing to negotiate flow control though. What does: ifconfig -vvm ix1 show in pfSense?

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            ngr2001 @stephenw10
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              ngr2001 @stephenw10
              last edited by ngr2001

              @stephenw10

              When connected at 10Gb I get this:
              216eb3fc-702c-4ba6-b3ec-1b0b1e8e953e-image.png

              When connected at 1Gb I get this:
              5748e43a-b81b-42b8-8923-d8992d880b61-image.png

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                lnguyen @ngr2001
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                @ngr2001 Maybe the 10GBASE-T SFP+ module you have is not passing along the 802.3x FC negotiation to the SFP+ port on the Brocade 7250

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Yes I would start to suspect the module. It should negotiate that over base-T but....
                  For other media types it's fixed like:

                  ix1: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                  	description: WAN4
                  	options=4e138bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                  	capabilities=4f53fbb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                  	ether 00:08:a2:12:e2:cb
                  	inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe12:e2cb%ix1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>)
                  	status: active
                  	supported media:
                  		media autoselect
                  		media 1000Base-KX
                  		media 10Gbase-Twinax
                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                  	drivername: ix1
                  	plugged: SFP/SFP+/SFP28 Unknown (Copper pigtail)
                  	vendor: OEM PN: SFP-H10GB-CU5M SN: CSS51F70287 DATE: 2015-07-01
                  

                  There it's just set to 'enabled' in the switch. I would try setting both ends as enabled rather than negotiated.

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                    ngr2001 @stephenw10
                    last edited by ngr2001

                    @stephenw10

                    I dont see any other options other than negotiate on the brocade side, are you suggesting I tweak the PF Side with a tunable ?

                    https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-08095-managementguide/page/GUID-A5971868-1051-4807-8ED2-D3BC6B10AA3B.html

                    I also found this in the manual:

                    66a76d39-c8ba-48de-a453-da9940939b39-image.png

                    So what the heck does that mean, the manual does not offer any means or clues on if you can manually force flow control on a 10Gb port. To me this simply reads as not supported ?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      @ngr2001 said in Mixing different NIC Speeds (1Gb & 10Gb) Performance Problem Question:

                      https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-08095-managementguide/page/GUID-A5971868-1051-4807-8ED2-D3BC6B10AA3B.html

                      Auto-negotiation of flow control is not supported on 10 Gbps and 40 Gbps ports, fiber ports, and copper or fiber combination ports. 
                      

                      So you need to set a 10G port to enabled not neg-enabled.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        There are multiple options there:

                        SSH@icx7250(config-if-e10000-1/2/1)#flow-control 
                          both            Flow Control in PAUSE generation and honoring mode.
                          generate-only   Flow Control in PAUSE generation only mode.
                          honor-only      Flow Control in  PAUSE honoring (Default) mode.
                          neg-on          Enable Flow Control with negotiation enabled
                          <cr>
                        

                        You probably want both

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                          ngr2001 @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10

                          I did just see that too.

                          I just set it to both, so far not seeing any change on the PF Side. Going to reboot everything and check again.

                          b1425201-acbf-412f-b4c7-4080c7b5cebd-image.png

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                            ngr2001 @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10

                            Set to Both on Brocade Port

                            No change on PF side after rebooting both PF and Switch.

                            45310adf-3f02-44e4-98f6-1b673309b8b4-image.png

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                              ngr2001 @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10

                              On the transceiver side I am using:

                              10Gtek 80-Meter, 10GBase-T SFP+ to RJ45 Transceiver
                              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B094N9YKN9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

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                                ngr2001 @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10

                                Found this gem, I think someone suggested its my transceiver, I bet it doesn't support flow control.

                                0d2cc408-cf78-4f52-9df4-7e18714c15d2-image.png

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Urgh, well that would do it I guess.

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                                    lnguyen @ngr2001
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                                    @ngr2001 Did you buy the single speed 10GbE model or the quad speed 1/2.5/5/10GbE model?

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                                      ngr2001 @lnguyen
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                                      @lnguyen

                                      The 80M single speed 10GbE model which to what I am researching is unlikely to support flow control, what a kick in the pants.

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                                        lnguyen @ngr2001
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                                        @ngr2001 That is likely the case since the only factor that changes is moving the NIC from RJ45 switchport to SFP+ switchport. When does this Cisco switch you ordered arrive?

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                                          ngr2001 @lnguyen
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                                          @lnguyen

                                          Not for a few days, going away for the weekend though. I'm debating getting a new SFP+ adapter just to test this brocade out for educational purposes.

                                          To your point, I'm 100% going to swap over to the Cisco 3850 and simply run WAN & LAN at 2.5Gb, hopefully my 1Gb clients will not have an issue but I more confident in my ability to fix it in Cisco land.

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                                            lnguyen @ngr2001
                                            last edited by lnguyen

                                            @ngr2001 If you use the global setting qos queue-softmax-multiplier 1200, you should get results like I shared earlier and below:

                                            sudo ethtool enp110s0 | grep Speed
                                            	Speed: 1000Mb/s
                                            
                                            speedtest 
                                            
                                               Speedtest by Ookla
                                            
                                                  Server: Sonic.net, Inc. - San Jose, CA (id: 17846)
                                                     ISP: Comcast Cable
                                            Idle Latency:    16.36 ms   (jitter: 3.65ms, low: 10.12ms, high: 20.24ms)
                                                Download:   897.11 Mbps (data used: 1.6 GB)                                                   
                                                             15.93 ms   (jitter: 5.82ms, low: 7.80ms, high: 257.78ms)
                                                  Upload:   313.54 Mbps (data used: 179.2 MB)                                                   
                                                             17.45 ms   (jitter: 2.46ms, low: 13.94ms, high: 47.53ms)
                                             Packet Loss:     0.0%
                                            

                                            Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/50a2ddfa-c2b9-489c-ba91-5e7b4db52191

                                            speedtest
                                            
                                               Speedtest by Ookla
                                            
                                                  Server: Acreto - San Jose, CA (id: 56175)
                                                     ISP: Comcast Cable
                                            Idle Latency:    10.91 ms   (jitter: 5.79ms, low: 7.68ms, high: 20.91ms)
                                                Download:   931.50 Mbps (data used: 1.1 GB)                                                   
                                                             26.69 ms   (jitter: 30.95ms, low: 12.98ms, high: 295.44ms)
                                                  Upload:   312.45 Mbps (data used: 287.8 MB)                                                   
                                                             16.41 ms   (jitter: 4.14ms, low: 12.00ms, high: 65.82ms)
                                             Packet Loss:     0.0%
                                            

                                            Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/a7bf33ea-a2e0-45a9-891e-4ad0abd4bbb0

                                            You shouldn't have to use 802.3x FC as the larger buffers will mostly mask the symptoms of broken TCP FC. It just won't give you root cause resolution.

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