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    • BearB
      Bear @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10

      ✓ Test Server: [68863] 0.00km San Antonio, TX by AT&T
      ✓ Latency: 9.472954ms Jitter: 1.390244ms Min: 8.694556ms Max: 13.568589ms
      ✓ Packet Loss Analyzer: Running in background (<= 30 Secs)
      ✓ Download: 1350.20 Mbps (Used: 1708.20MB) (Latency: 15ms Jitter: 10ms Min: 8ms Max: 44ms)
      ✓ Upload: 763.02 Mbps (Used: 930.43MB) (Latency: 11ms Jitter: 2ms Min: 8ms Max: 13ms)
      ✓ Packet Loss: N/A
      

      I'm getting really slow speeds from the 6100 vs my Mac or Windows system with 10GBE to the point where this up speed is aligned with the ~750mbit I get on those systems with the HP/X520.

      In other words, the slow performance test locally on the 6100 would mask the issue as I get 3500+mbits up when running speedtest from a local system vs 760 from the 6100 itself.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, OK. Probably not useful data there then.

        Do you see the same in an iperf test?

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        • BearB
          Bear @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 Haven't run iPerf yet. I'll try that later, but I'm not sure what data we're after here; the performance is identical for low upload speeds using 2 different Intel NICs in the same x16 slot @ x8, and both WAN and LAN are on the same NIC.

          Flow control is off, PCI power management is off, and with an intermediary multigig switch, results remain identical.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            If you're able to see the same issue against a remote iperf server you can then test against a local iperf server to check if it's something specific to the WAN connection.

            Also you can run iperf directly from pfSense with more useful results.

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            • BearB
              Bear @stephenw10
              last edited by Bear

              @stephenw10 said in Slow upload speeds on HP Z2 G9 PFSense Box:

              If you're able to see the same issue against a remote iperf server you can then test against a local iperf server to check if it's something specific to the WAN connection.

              Also you can run iperf directly from pfSense with more useful results.

              IPerf isn't jibing with speedtest. Here's my recent speedtest result: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/739237147

              Here's a few iPERF 3 runs to supposedly local addresses:

              Connecting to host 37.19.206.20, port 5201
              [  5] local 75.31.24.1 port 38531 connected to 37.19.206.20 port 5201
              [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
              [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  28.2 MBytes   237 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  46.9 MBytes   393 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   2.00-3.01   sec  47.6 MBytes   397 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   3.01-4.00   sec  46.9 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  47.2 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  47.2 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   6.00-7.03   sec  48.2 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   7.03-8.00   sec  46.0 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  47.5 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  47.4 MBytes   397 Mbits/sec    0   6.41 MBytes
              - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
              [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
              [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   453 MBytes   380 Mbits/sec    0             sender
              [  5]   0.00-10.05  sec   453 MBytes   379 Mbits/sec                  receiver
              
              
              Connecting to host dal.speedtest.clouvider.net, port 5200
              [  5] local 75.31.24.1 port 48312 connected to 2.56.188.136 port 5200
              [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
              [  5]   0.00-1.01   sec  5.62 MBytes  46.9 Mbits/sec    8   92.8 KBytes
              [  5]   1.01-2.00   sec  11.2 MBytes  94.8 Mbits/sec    0    162 KBytes
              [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  17.8 MBytes   149 Mbits/sec    0    231 KBytes
              [  5]   3.00-4.02   sec  20.9 MBytes   172 Mbits/sec    3    220 KBytes
              [  5]   4.02-5.00   sec  19.1 MBytes   163 Mbits/sec    4    179 KBytes
              [  5]   5.00-6.01   sec  19.2 MBytes   160 Mbits/sec    0    248 KBytes
              [  5]   6.01-7.00   sec  24.8 MBytes   210 Mbits/sec    0    316 KBytes
              [  5]   7.00-8.01   sec  22.2 MBytes   186 Mbits/sec   81    114 KBytes
              [  5]   8.01-9.01   sec  10.9 MBytes  91.1 Mbits/sec   46   34.7 KBytes
              [  5]   9.01-10.00  sec  6.12 MBytes  51.5 Mbits/sec    0    104 KBytes
              - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
              [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
              [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   158 MBytes   132 Mbits/sec  142             sender
              [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec   157 MBytes   132 Mbits/sec                  receiver
              

              I can consistently get similar speeds to other providers as well. iperf3 isn't getting me close to a gigabit. Real world transfers are in the 2.5-3.5Gbit range usually.

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              • BearB
                Bear @Bear
                last edited by

                @stephenw10

                Now, if I do the iperf3 from my Mac Studio with 10GBE going /through/ the 6100 Max...

                Connecting to host speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net, port 5201
                [  7] local 75.31.24.8 port 61252 connected to 209.58.159.68 port 5201
                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
                [  7]   0.00-1.01   sec   186 MBytes  1.55 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   1.01-2.00   sec   247 MBytes  2.08 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   2.00-3.01   sec   249 MBytes  2.08 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   3.01-4.01   sec   247 MBytes  2.07 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   4.01-5.01   sec   248 MBytes  2.08 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   5.01-6.01   sec   247 MBytes  2.07 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   6.01-7.01   sec   248 MBytes  2.08 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   7.01-8.01   sec   220 MBytes  1.84 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   8.01-9.00   sec   207 MBytes  1.74 Gbits/sec                  
                [  7]   9.00-10.01  sec   216 MBytes  1.81 Gbits/sec                  
                - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
                [  7]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.26 GBytes  1.94 Gbits/sec    sender
                [  7]   0.00-10.02  sec  2.26 GBytes  1.94 Gbits/sec    receiver
                

                And do the same iperf3 test from the 6100 Max itself, just a moment later to the same iperf3 server...

                Connecting to host speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net, port 5201
                [  5] local 75.31.24.1 port 8528 connected to 209.58.159.68 port 5201
                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
                [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  11.4 MBytes  95.3 Mbits/sec   60    145 KBytes
                [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  6.88 MBytes  57.7 Mbits/sec   37   79.5 KBytes
                [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  11.9 MBytes  99.6 Mbits/sec    0    156 KBytes
                [  5]   3.00-4.01   sec  10.5 MBytes  87.6 Mbits/sec   68   53.7 KBytes
                [  5]   4.01-5.02   sec  7.50 MBytes  62.3 Mbits/sec   19    108 KBytes
                [  5]   5.02-6.02   sec  10.6 MBytes  88.9 Mbits/sec   19   42.7 KBytes
                [  5]   6.02-7.00   sec  7.88 MBytes  67.2 Mbits/sec    0    118 KBytes
                [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  15.6 MBytes   131 Mbits/sec    0    194 KBytes
                [  5]   8.00-9.01   sec  23.8 MBytes   197 Mbits/sec    0    271 KBytes
                [  5]   9.01-10.02  sec  31.8 MBytes   263 Mbits/sec    0    348 KBytes
                - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                [  5]   0.00-10.02  sec   138 MBytes   115 Mbits/sec  203    sender
                [  5]   0.00-10.03  sec   137 MBytes   115 Mbits/sec         receiver
                
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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Hmm, interesting. Yes, as I said, running iperf from pfSense itself is always going to give a worse result than thorough it just because of the processing required to run the test itself. That's particularly true of the 6100 where each CPU core is not that powerful.

                  Can you test using the i5?

                  Was that with multiple parallel streams?

                  The default direction for iperf3 is from the client to the server, so upload. Try using -R to get a download result.

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                  • BearB
                    Bear @stephenw10
                    last edited by Bear

                    @stephenw10 said in Slow upload speeds on HP Z2 G9 PFSense Box:

                    Hmm, interesting. Yes, as I said, running iperf from pfSense itself is always going to give a worse result than thorough it just because of the processing required to run the test itself. That's particularly true of the 6100 where each CPU core is not that powerful.

                    Can you test using the i5?

                    Was that with multiple parallel streams?

                    The default direction for iperf3 is from the client to the server, so upload. Try using -R to get a download result.

                    6100 Max With -R and -P 120

                    # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120 -R
                    
                    [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.28  sec  3.21 GBytes  2.68 Gbits/sec  9325    sender
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.88 GBytes  2.47 Gbits/sec          receiver
                    

                    Mac Studio behind 6100 Max with -R and -P 120

                    # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120 -R
                    [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  5.26 GBytes  4.52 Gbits/sec  11595     sender
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.12 GBytes  4.40 Gbits/sec            receiver
                    

                    6100 Max with just -P 120

                    # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120
                    
                    [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.07  sec  3.10 GBytes  2.65 Gbits/sec  12761    sender
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.09  sec  3.04 GBytes  2.59 Gbits/sec           receiver
                    

                    Mac Studio behind 6100 Max with just -P 120

                    # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120
                    [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.06 GBytes  1.77 Gbits/sec           sender
                    [SUM]   0.00-10.02  sec  2.05 GBytes  1.76 Gbits/sec           receiver
                    

                    Not quite my SpeedTest Results, but enough that I can try the same on the i5 later tonight and append this thread with some of those numbers.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Probably hitting the CPU core limit on the 6100 there. But it's at least the same both ways and more than the 400Mps limit you hit previously. So try the i5 there and see if it still hits it.

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                      • BearB
                        Bear @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10

                        I'll run the same tests tonight - I need to take my network offline to jump to the i5-based system, so it'll need to be after hours this evening, but I'll get some data here soon. Thanks for the help. :)

                        -Bear

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                        • BearB
                          Bear @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 said in Slow upload speeds on HP Z2 G9 PFSense Box:

                          Probably hitting the CPU core limit on the 6100 there. But it's at least the same both ways and more than the 400Mps limit you hit previously. So try the i5 there and see if it still hits it.

                          Getting a No Active Repos when I try to install iperf3 on the i5.

                          I'm going to try a clean install (And not use ZFS as the fs this time), restore my old config and try again.

                          Will likely be a tomorrow thing, but I'll update as soon as I have more data.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            If you just tried to install it at the CLI without visiting the webgui first you probably need to run: pfSense-repoc -N first. Then retry.

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                            • BearB
                              Bear @stephenw10
                              last edited by Bear

                              @stephenw10 Looks like when I swapped NICs, I lost my registration for some reason.

                              What do I need to do in order to get a new token? It's not on my PDF. Order SO25-338254 - Sent you my NDI via Chat.

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                              • BearB
                                Bear @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10

                                I've got the numbers from the i5-14500 /w the X520, flow control off.

                                With - P -R

                                # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120 -R
                                [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  5.20 GBytes  4.46 Gbits/sec  10655       sender
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.07 GBytes  4.35 Gbits/sec              receiver
                                

                                With -P

                                # iperf3 -c speedtest.dal13.us.leaseweb.net -p 5201-5210 -P 120
                                [ ID]   Interval         Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.61 GBytes  1.38 Gbits/sec  27815      sender
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.02  sec  1.60 GBytes  1.37 Gbits/sec             receiver
                                

                                Note that with Speed Test, I initially see speeds of 1.6-1.7Gbit that quickly slow down to 400-650Mbits. This does not happen with the 6100.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Hmm, so that looks like the same result as a client behind the 6100.

                                  Does a client behind the i5 still see a much lower limit on iperf? Like ~400Mbps?

                                  If so that implies a LAN side issue with traffic going into pfSense.

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                                  • BearB
                                    Bear @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 Yes, a client behind the i5 sees a much lower limit. Though I'm not sure where to go with this from here. Same cables, same switch between both units. Same config even, since it was a restore.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Hmm, well that seems to confirm some issue on the LAN side then.

                                      Still no input errors on the LAN interface?

                                      Can you try connecting a client to the LAN directly to rule out some low level issue between the LAN and switch?

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                                      • BearB
                                        Bear @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 I've tried that. Still getting the same speeds.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          So to be clear the client behind the i5 sees ~400Mbps both for iperf and speedtest.net? Whether or not via the switch. And no errors are shown on the NIC.

                                          Hmm. What about an iperf test between the client and pfSense directly? Does that also get throttled for traffic going into the LAN NIC?

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                                          • BearB
                                            Bear @Bear
                                            last edited by

                                            @Bear To put a finer point on it, there is no "real" LAN side besides physical, since I'm running a filtered bridge. The LAN side is a filtered port on the same NIC that connects to a Netgear L3 multigig switch.

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