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    fzotti
    last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 10:57 AM

    Good morning , i've just installed a new NG4200 and I see these thermal data
    dev.cpu.0.temperature: 58.0C
    dev.cpu.1.temperature: 58.0C
    dev.cpu.2.temperature: 58.0C
    dev.cpu.3.temperature: 58.0C
    hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 60.1C

    Please someone could tell me if these values are normal or not ? ( for me it seems tzo a llittle bit high) .

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      elvisimprsntr
      last edited by elvisimprsntr Mar 11, 2025, 11:26 AM Mar 11, 2025, 11:22 AM

      What is the critical (CRT) temperature limit?

      Although my non-Netgate appliance TZ0 is 26.9C, the critical limit is 95.1C

      sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0
      
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 50
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 5
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 1
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 110.1C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 95.1C
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: 90.1C
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CR3: -1
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 85.1C
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
      hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 26.9C
      
      
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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 12:07 AM

        What's the ambient temperature there?

        That's not worryingly hot but it probably could be cooler with better air flow.

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          tgl @fzotti
          last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 1:39 AM

          @fzotti
          As a comparison point, my 4200 is currently showing 59.1C for "Zone 0" and 50 to 53C for each CPU (the CPU numbers bounce around a bit). This unit sits in a small closet along with a couple of other pieces of network gear, and there's no airflow beyond leakage around the closet door. I haven't tried to measure ambient temp in the closet but it's noticeably a few degrees above the adjacent hallway. I'm sure I could get it down a couple degrees by making some holes, but the WAF (wife acceptance factor) for that would be pretty low and it doesn't really seem like this is warm enough to worry about.

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            JonathanLee
            last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 1:52 AM

            I actually added a fan inside my 2100 inside it. There is also some Amazon networking gear usb based fans and or cooling pads that might help in your environment.

            Make sure to upvote

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              fzotti
              last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:06 AM

              This unit is in a rack cabinet with others devices and rack switches .
              The range warning-critical is set with default value : zone , core and PCH all 60-70 °C .

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 11:08 AM

                Any idea what the ambient temp is in that cabinet?

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                  elvisimprsntr @fzotti
                  last edited by elvisimprsntr Mar 12, 2025, 4:21 PM Mar 12, 2025, 1:57 PM

                  @fzotti said in Netgate 4200 thermal question:

                  This unit is in a rack cabinet with others devices and rack switches .

                  Is the 4200 directly above all the other heat generating equipment? If so, consider moving the 4200 below the other equipment in the rack and/or a space above or below.

                  Personally, I have all my AV and IT kit on metal wire racks

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                    fzotti
                    last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 7:49 AM

                    Many thanks all for yours posts replay..
                    I've no idea what temp there is in the cabinet
                    I've decided to move the unit below in the cabinet and the temp is decreased about 4 °C and now is in the default range , my question now is :
                    What is the best temp that NG4200 (without fans or air conditioned enviroment) can reach in a normal enviroment ( 21 °C) ?

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 1:38 PM

                      It's hard to give any absolute values since it depends on loading etc. It's passively cooled so designed to run hot.

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                        johndoe102
                        last edited by johndoe102 Mar 17, 2025, 11:27 AM Mar 17, 2025, 11:26 AM

                        In my case , my Netgate 4200 is placed in the basement with ambient temperature of 16-18 C and I also had about 50 C of the CPU temperature. So I decided to place a 140mm fan running all the time on top of the Netgate 4200 and now I have about 20-24 C

                        Screenshot from 2025-03-17 12-25-36.png

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                          wgstarks @johndoe102
                          last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 2:36 PM

                          @johndoe102 said in Netgate 4200 thermal question:

                          In my case , my Netgate 4200 is placed in the basement with ambient temperature of 16-18 C and I also had about 50 C of the CPU temperature. So I decided to place a 140mm fan running all the time on top of the Netgate 4200 and now I have about 20-24 C

                          Screenshot from 2025-03-17 12-25-36.png

                          I had a similar situation with mine. Sticking a fan to the top cut the temps to about half.

                          Box: SG-4200

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