When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available

[Dobby_]

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

Wouldn't that be full release? Not development snapshots?

As I know it both can be named there.

[Diggy]

Any word on the CE 2.8.0 snapshot? Any word on a release date for the official CE 2.8.0 release? We are kinda in a holding pattern thinking that a new release is coming soon. A status update would be nice, please and thanks.

[ahking19]

@Diggy if Netgate holds to form it will be after the Plus version 24.11 is released. The beta of 24.11 was announced today
https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190745/pfsense-plus-24-11-beta-is-here

If we see the 24.11 GA release this month. Hopefully CE will be several weeks later.

[Diggy]

Any word on the next CE release? v2.7.2 appears to be about 15 months old.

[Diggy]

I'm starting to think Netgate has abandoned pfSense CE. Maybe it is time to switch to OPNsense.?!

[clifford64]

@Diggy
Yeah, I made the switch to OPNSense. No updates within more than a year is not really secure.

[Diggy]

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@Diggy
Yeah, I made the switch to OPNSense. No updates within more than a year is not really secure.

Are there any notable shortcomings of OPNsense compared to pfSense that you are aware of? I just downloaded OPNsense and will start testing it this week. :)

[clifford64]

@Diggy

From my perspective, they are pretty much the same. Better at monthly updates so far. Different layout and stuff, but otherwise, they are the same platform and everything from my understanding. So to me, same concepts, just things are in different places.

[Octopuss]

@clifford64 So how often is OPNSense getting updated? I too am starting to think pfSense CE is an afterthought at this point.

But then this forum is extremely good at quickly getting support from other people, not sure if I can get it over there.

[clifford64]

@Octopuss
I would recommend checking their website, but I believe it's monthly updates.

[nimrod]

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@Diggy
Yeah, I made the switch to OPNSense.

Why are you still here ?

No updates within more than a year is not really secure.

This statement is completely invalid.

[clifford64]

This statement is completely invalid.

Can you please elaborate?

[nimrod]

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

This statement is completely invalid.

Can you please elaborate?

It is not me that should elaborate anything. Its all of you that constantly whine about CE version not being secure, just because it has not been updated for 15 months. And every time i ask people to point out ANY security issues in CE version, i never EVER get any reply. As i said in other thread, you want updates for the sake of updates. In fact, you dont know what you want. Thats the sad part. You want the updates, but god forbid you support the project by bying a + version. I see some of you have switched to opnsense and yet, you still come here and brag about it. Are you really that bored ? Do you really think netgate cares ? No one cares.

Why cant you appreciate the fact that you have this very powerful and secure firewall solution for free? Why cant you appreciate the fact that there is alternative solution? Why not use either one without bragging and whining ? This is why we cant have nice things. People have become entitled and too spoiled.

[clifford64]

@nimrod said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

This statement is completely invalid.

Can you please elaborate?

It is not me that should elaborate anything. Its all of you that constantly whine about CE version not being secure, just because it has not been updated for 15 months. And every time i ask people to point out ANY security issues in CE version, i never EVER get any reply. As i said in other thread, you want updates for the sake of updates. In fact, you dont know what you want. Thats the sad part. I see some of you have switched to opnsense and yet, you still come here and brag about it. Are you really that bored ? Do you really think netgate cares ? No one cares.

Why cant you appreciate the fact that you have this very powerful and secure firewall solution for free? Why cant you appreciate the fact that there is alternative solution? Why not use either one without bragging and whining ? This is why we cant have nice things. People have become entitled and too spoiled.

I apologize if you took what I said as whining. I was only responding to an update on a forum post that I made a while back. I am by no means bragging. For me personally, I made this post over 2 years ago because I was experiencing some issues with how pfsense was handling IPv6 neighbor discovery. I completely forgot about it until I received a notification that someone had responded and I responded to their comments, as is the point of forum style discussions.

As for not being secure, it appears to be vulnerable to an openSSH bug. However, I think this is mitigated through the system > patches item.
https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2023-48795

However, no patches in a few years means that bugs aren't getting fixed on a regular basis and it is more susceptible to new vulnerabilities that are discovered in old libraries as various packages and their libraries are updated to newer versions.

I am not telling anyone what to do. I am just telling those who have asked what I have done to resolve the issue that I posted about.

[Octopuss]

@nimrod said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

This statement is completely invalid.

Can you please elaborate?

It is not me that should elaborate anything. Its all of you that constantly whine about CE version not being secure, just because it has not been updated for 15 months. And every time i ask people to point out ANY security issues in CE version, i never EVER get any reply. As i said in other thread, you want updates for the sake of updates. In fact, you dont know what you want. Thats the sad part. You want the updates, but god forbid you support the project by bying a + version. I see some of you have switched to opnsense and yet, you still come here and brag about it. Are you really that bored ? Do you really think netgate cares ? No one cares.

Why cant you appreciate the fact that you have this very powerful and secure firewall solution for free? Why cant you appreciate the fact that there is alternative solution? Why not use either one without bragging and whining ? This is why we cant have nice things. People have become entitled and too spoiled.

You know it's funny? You sound just like the type of person who might have happily taken part in the disgusting attacks on OPNSense seven years ago.
I wasn't aware of the drama until yesterday when I started looking into OPNSense, and I must say I am completely grossed out, and that's an understatement. The very owner of Netgate not being shy to go borderline criminal against "competition" and part of the community following. Yeah, I think I am switching regardless.

[nimrod]

@Octopuss said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@nimrod said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@clifford64 said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

This statement is completely invalid.

Can you please elaborate?

It is not me that should elaborate anything. Its all of you that constantly whine about CE version not being secure, just because it has not been updated for 15 months. And every time i ask people to point out ANY security issues in CE version, i never EVER get any reply. As i said in other thread, you want updates for the sake of updates. In fact, you dont know what you want. Thats the sad part. You want the updates, but god forbid you support the project by bying a + version. I see some of you have switched to opnsense and yet, you still come here and brag about it. Are you really that bored ? Do you really think netgate cares ? No one cares.

Why cant you appreciate the fact that you have this very powerful and secure firewall solution for free? Why cant you appreciate the fact that there is alternative solution? Why not use either one without bragging and whining ? This is why we cant have nice things. People have become entitled and too spoiled.

You know it's funny? You sound just like the type of person who might have happily taken part in the disgusting attacks on OPNSense seven years ago.

I have no idea what are you talking about. I use opnsense in some of my deployments as well. It works well. Im not a fanboy, i dont defend netage, deciso, or anyone else out there. This whining that im pointing out in here happens on opnsense forums as well. There are whiny opnsense users that do pretty much the same. They constantly criticize opnsense for this and that, and then they threaten that they will switch to pfsense. As i said, no one cares.

I wasn't aware of the drama until yesterday when I started looking into OPNSense, and I must say I am completely grossed out, and that's an understatement.

You should check opnsense vs dynfi drama as well since you are so much concerned about being fair. Im sure you will change your mind right away and install dynfi instead. Please stop this nonsense.

The very owner of Netgate not being shy to go borderline criminal against "competition" and part of the community following. Yeah, I think I am switching regardless.

You sure love drama dont you? Why dont you focus on doing something productive instead of bashing vendors and picking sides. Why cant we enjoy this free software while it lasts. I hope you are aware that the era of open source firewalls is comming to and end. The last thing we need is bunch of whiny and spoiled users to bash pfsense/opnsense/dynfi developers. Be a man and show some graditude.

And just for the record for all of you that are switching to opnsense because it gets regular updates. Why dont you research CVE-2024-6387 and report back in here. Let us know how long did it take to fix this issue in opnsense (that gets regular updates) vs pfsense that "gets no updates". Let us know.

[Octopuss]

@nimrod You certainly seem to enjoy using the word "whine".

[clifford64]

And just for the record for all of you that are switching to opnsense because it gets regular updates. Why dont you research CVE-2024-6387 and report back in here. Let us know how long did it take to fix this issue in opnsense (that gets regular updates) vs pfsense that "gets no updates". Let us know.

Based on what I am seeing, it looks like it was fixed in 24.1.10 which was released on July 11th 2024.

Again, I am not telling anyone what to do. Just responding to people as to how I fixed my original issue.

[jdeloach]

@clifford64 I think the point that a lot of folks are missing is that the FREE version, CE, does not include a lot of the bells and whistles that are included in the 23.x, 24.x, etc versions of the software anymore.

The CE version includes just the basic firewall and that's it. After all Netgate is in business to make money and cannot afford to give away all the niceties that they are selling in the other versions for free.

[nimrod]

@Octopuss said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

@nimrod You certainly seem to enjoy using the word "whine".

Thats exactly what you and many others do. You spew bunch of nonsense with nothing to back it up.