Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?

Patch

@netblues said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

What is this fuss all about?

No fuss I can see.

A reasonable question was asking for anyone interested in forward planning and wanting to manage possible future disruption
A reasonable description of risk discussed here and elsewhere https://forum.netgate.com/topic/196917/pfsense-community-edition-eol-2-7-2-release-amd64 https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182270/when-will-2-8-dev-snapshot-be-available
But I suppose it is true some object to others thinking ahead, assessing risks and contemplating options.

@netblues said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

Isn't opnsense doing about the same while being a copycat?
A business paid version versus a free version too?

Err
It appears you have missed the core issue. Opnsense and pfsense in the past did have the same open source development model where their commercial product uses the free open source product to develop and debug, which is then used to achieve a commercial product with sufficient features and reliability to compete with the big closed source products.

Opnsense still uses this open source model. However Netgate has changed their development model so the open source free product is
no longer used to develop the propriety product and is instead only a second competing product. Access has been curtailed consistent with the financial implications of this change.

Time will tell if Netgate can have their cake and eat it too

@nimrod said in When will 2.8 dev snapshot be available:

I hope you are aware that the era of open source firewalls is comming to and end.

It appears to be for pfsense but I'm not sure the generalisation is accurate.

fireodo

@Patch

As I can see here: Closed tickets
the latest fix was added on 29.03.2025 so I think its not abandoned ...

Patch

@fireodo See https://forum.netgate.com/post/1210405

Netgate's behaviour in

development approach,
accesses to snap shots (and it's dramatic change over time), and
deliberately vague much slower release schedule

Indicates Netgate has choosen to make the open source free version eol as rapidly as possible consistent with

transitioning as many developers as they can to their proprietary paid version
transitioning as many users as they can to their proprietary paid version
minimise alienation of their customer base
try out using paid customers as beta tester

To achieve the above, not overtly acknowledging / denying the transition is being used by Netgate.

Which makes reasonable sense from Netgates perspective. However as a user managing product obsolescent, having some appreciation of the future usefulness of software I use is helpful. Other may prefer to be blind to it, and those using the paid version may not want to talk about it as that risk discouraging developers and users who value open source software.

Finger79

@Patch said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

Access has been curtailed consistent with the financial implications of this change.

Is this the official repo? https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense

I'm asking because I'd like to get started with pfSense development but don't know how/where to get started. I keep hearing mentions of it no longer being open source, but the GitHub repo still gets daily action.

kprovost

@Finger79 said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

@Patch said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

Access has been curtailed consistent with the financial implications of this change.

Is this the official repo? https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense

Yes, that's the official repo of the CE PHP bits of pfSense.
The FreeBSD OS bits live here: https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-src and the ports bits live here: https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports

I keep hearing mentions of it no longer being open source, but the GitHub repo still gets daily action.

Lots of stuff goes into the upstream FreeBSD src repo as well. The most recent of those was yesterday: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=1bf46184cdc35779849d909b3a483183245a0aba

stephenw10

fireodo

@stephenw10 said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

michmoor

@stephenw10 dont you start.

stephenw10

IJS

2.7.2-RELEASE (amd64)
built on Mon Mar 4 19:53:00 GMT 2024
FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT

Version 2.8.0.b.20250401 is available.
Version information updated at Tue Apr 1 20:07:41 BST 2025

michmoor

@stephenw10

cswroe

It's a lie. I heard it was abandoned.

michmoor

@cswroe its true...dont expect 2.8 snapshots at all today.....

Gertjan

Based on FreeBSD 15 !
That takes care of the last announcement.
edit : Based on Linux and all that ....

slu

@michmoor said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:

its true...dont expect 2.8 snapshots at all today.....

It is my humour to announce this on 1 April.