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      ahxcjay @keyser
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      @keyser Thank you.

      Yes, looks like syslog is consuming a tonne of writes my side. I've turned off default logging for deny rules and moved things to a ram disk for the time being.

      This is insane though that we're buying equipment with very finite storage lifetime.

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @ahxcjay
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        @ahxcjay curious but whats writing so much?

        I have had my 6100 Max for 3x years. I intentionally log every rule (compliance) along with pfblocker logging. There was a brief stint where i had to have ntop-ng running for a week.
        No suricata/snort.

        == START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
        SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
        
        SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
        Critical Warning:                   0x00
        Temperature:                        59 Celsius
        Available Spare:                    100%
        Available Spare Threshold:          1%
        Percentage Used:                    31%
        Data Units Read:                    35,772 [18.3 GB]
        Data Units Written:                 28,839,860 [14.7 TB]
        Host Read Commands:                 597,968
        Host Write Commands:                929,740,937
        Controller Busy Time:               11,409
        Power Cycles:                       37
        Power On Hours:                     6,553
        Unsafe Shutdowns:                   30
        Media and Data Integrity Errors:    0
        Error Information Log Entries:      0
        Warning  Comp. Temperature Time:    0
        Critical Comp. Temperature Time:    0
        Temperature Sensor 1:               83 Celsius
        Temperature Sensor 2:               59 Celsius
        Temperature Sensor 3:               59 Celsius
        Temperature Sensor 4:               60 Celsius
        Thermal Temp. 1 Transition Count:   1
        

        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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          ahxcjay @michmoor
          last edited by ahxcjay

          @michmoor Your R&W stats are way below mine, yet you're at 31%. It's a really sucky situation.

          I wish I knew what was writing so much. I run NextDNS, maybe it's that?

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            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @ahxcjay
            last edited by

            @ahxcjay yep it is 😢

            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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              ahxcjay @michmoor
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              @michmoor Currently looking for a decent B+M key SSD to replace it with. I have a remote pfSense instance running on Protectli hardware. About to replace that with a Samsung Evo 870 when I'm on-site. The current WD one it has isn't in the smartdb. The wear indicator is '101' which is clearly wrong.

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                tinfoilmatt @ahxcjay
                last edited by

                @ahxcjay If it makes you feel any better, my production box's M.2 NVMe drive is currently sitting at 133%. You got time. ;)

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                  ahxcjay @tinfoilmatt
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                  @tinfoilmatt hah! Appreciate it! I've mounted RAM disks for now. I wouldn't mind replacing the NVMe, it's just that finding a decent B&M keyed one now is so difficult.

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                    slu @ahxcjay
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                    @ahxcjay said in NVME Wear Rate on 6100:

                    It's also written 186TB.

                    I had the same issue:
                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/189820/how-do-i-find-out-what-write-continuously-on-my-pfsense-ssd

                    pfSense Gold subscription

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                      Patch @keyser
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                      @keyser said in NVME Wear Rate on 6100:

                      https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195990/another-netgate-with-storage-failure-6-in-total-so-far/38?_=1744872979707

                      I agree that thread contains an excellent analysis of the problem described in this thread together with solutions, so probably a better place to continue this conversations.

                      Starting near the end is easiest https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195990/another-netgate-with-storage-failure-6-in-total-so-far/

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                        andrew_cb @ahxcjay
                        last edited by andrew_cb

                        @ahxcjay The KingSpec NE 2242 is one of the few widely-available options:
                        https://www.amazon.com/KingSpec-256GB-Performance-Internal-Ultrabook/dp/B08TTDQ5WH?th=1

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                          ahxcjay @andrew_cb
                          last edited by ahxcjay

                          @andrew_cb said in NVME Wear Rate on 6100:

                          @ahxcjay The KingSpec NE 2242 is one of the few widely-available options:
                          https://www.amazon.com/KingSpec-256GB-Performance-Internal-Ultrabook/dp/B08TTDQ5WH?th=1

                          Installed yesterday. It's tiny.

                          === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
                          Model Number:                       NE-256 2242
                          Serial Number:                      
                          Firmware Version:                   SN25845
                          PCI Vendor/Subsystem ID:            0x1e4b
                          IEEE OUI Identifier:                0x0c82d5
                          Total NVM Capacity:                 256,060,514,304 [256 GB]
                          Unallocated NVM Capacity:           0
                          Controller ID:                      0
                          NVMe Version:                       1.4
                          Number of Namespaces:               1
                          Namespace 1 Size/Capacity:          256,060,514,304 [256 GB]
                          Namespace 1 Formatted LBA Size:     512
                          Namespace 1 IEEE EUI-64:            0c82d5 9581000413
                          Local Time is:                      Tue Apr 22 21:16:29 2025 EDT
                          Firmware Updates (0x16):            3 Slots, no Reset required
                          Optional Admin Commands (0x0017):   Security Format Frmw_DL Self_Test
                          Optional NVM Commands (0x001f):     Comp Wr_Unc DS_Mngmt Wr_Zero Sav/Sel_Feat
                          Log Page Attributes (0x06):         Cmd_Eff_Lg Ext_Get_Lg
                          Maximum Data Transfer Size:         128 Pages
                          Warning  Comp. Temp. Threshold:     90 Celsius
                          Critical Comp. Temp. Threshold:     95 Celsius
                          
                          Supported Power States
                          St Op     Max   Active     Idle   RL RT WL WT  Ent_Lat  Ex_Lat
                           0 +     6.50W       -        -    0  0  0  0        0       0
                           1 +     5.80W       -        -    1  1  1  1        0       0
                           2 +     3.60W       -        -    2  2  2  2        0       0
                           3 -   0.7460W       -        -    3  3  3  3     5000   10000
                           4 -   0.7260W       -        -    4  4  4  4     8000   45000
                          
                          Supported LBA Sizes (NSID 0x1)
                          Id Fmt  Data  Metadt  Rel_Perf
                           0 +     512       0         0
                          
                          === START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
                          SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
                          
                          SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
                          Critical Warning:                   0x00
                          Temperature:                        41 Celsius
                          Available Spare:                    100%
                          Available Spare Threshold:          1%
                          Percentage Used:                    0%
                          Data Units Read:                    2,707 [1.38 GB]
                          Data Units Written:                 9,386 [4.80 GB]
                          Host Read Commands:                 50,627
                          Host Write Commands:                189,770
                          Controller Busy Time:               0
                          Power Cycles:                       4
                          Power On Hours:                     28
                          Unsafe Shutdowns:                   2
                          Media and Data Integrity Errors:    0
                          Error Information Log Entries:      0
                          Warning  Comp. Temperature Time:    0
                          Critical Comp. Temperature Time:    0
                          Temperature Sensor 1:               41 Celsius
                          Temperature Sensor 2:               49 Celsius
                          
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