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    josephchrzempiec @JKnott
    last edited by 18 days ago

    @JKnott I'm not violating anything with my ISP. I have a Business class setup to do with whatever I like. Also I called my ISP and told them the story as long as I'm not reselling and profiting my bandwidth which I'm not i'm allow to give it away at no cost which I'm. and Also I went to my local branch ISP and talked to two management teams and they said it is prefectly fine. And any problems let them know. They even gave me pointers on how to be successful with this.

    I'm all set on this subject.

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      josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
      last edited by 18 days ago

      @stephenw10 Is there some examples or some steps I can do for this to be limiting between users?

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        josephchrzempiec @Gertjan
        last edited by 18 days ago

        @Gertjan said in A lot of users?:

        @josephchrzempiec

        Most 'serious' access points can handle bandwidth limiting for every wifi user, >and, bonus, handle the client isolation for you, something the router you use, >pfSense in this case, can't do.

        My access points can not do limiting for each user. It will have to be on the pfsense side to do this.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by 18 days ago

          I don't think we have a specific example doc but this covers it: https://www.provya.com/blog/pfsense-limit-maximum-bandwidth-per-users-with-limiters/

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            josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
            last edited by josephchrzempiec 18 days ago 18 days ago

            @stephenw10 said in A lot of users?:

            https://www.provya.com/blog/pfsense-limit-maximum-bandwidth-per-users-with-limiters/

            Thank you I'm looking at it. The problem I have is the download speed is more then enough. Only thing I worry about if more and more people get on it that enough people wouldn't have enugh bandwidth to do anything.

            upload speed is the same problem.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by 18 days ago

              Exactly, so you set the total bandwidth at, say, 500Mbps and it assigns pipes dynamically depending on how many source/destination IPs are connected. I.e. Only one connected user would get 500Mbps but with 10 connected each would get 50Mbps.

              Now that can still be an issue if you have 500 connected IPs! 😉 But it prevents one user just sucking all the bandwidth.

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                josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                last edited by 18 days ago

                @stephenw10 Got you Thank you. Now i have to figure the whole not letting users see the router and each other. The bandwidth part I think figured it out.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by 18 days ago

                  Users don't see each other > 'client isolation' in the APs.

                  Users don't see the firewall > firewall rules in pfSense.

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                    josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                    last edited by 18 days ago

                    @stephenw10 Theses Ap are cheap chineses AP. they can see each other and no option to stop that as the firmware is limited. that is why they are cheap chinese AP.

                    As far as the not seeing the router I will look into that. Thank you.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by 18 days ago

                      Hmm, I would double check that. It might be renamed something by their firmware but I've never seen an AP that didn't have that option. It's a low level hardware setting that is present in everything.

                      Or you might be able to flash them with a 3rd party firmware that does expose it like OpenWRT.

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                        josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                        last edited by 18 days ago

                        @stephenw10 to be honest I'm not sure I will look through it again and look at the manual that was given as well.

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by 18 days ago

                          What APs are they specifically?

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                            josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                            last edited by 18 days ago

                            @stephenw10 I didn’t buy them. They was giving to me by a friend of mine. They look like they have custom firmware on them. I looked them up and found them on made in china website. link text

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by stephenw10 18 days ago 18 days ago

                              So actually Comfast CF-EW71 devices?

                              Looks like they have some central management. Do you have that?

                              If those are v2 hardware it looks like OpenWRT recently added support.

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                                NollipfSense
                                last edited by 18 days ago

                                May I suggest a Mikrotik AP device!

                                pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                                pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                                  josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                                  last edited by 18 days ago

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                                    josephchrzempiec @NollipfSense
                                    last edited by 18 days ago

                                    @NollipfSense No money ot buy anything.

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                                      josephchrzempiec @stephenw10
                                      last edited by 18 days ago

                                      @stephenw10 I have saw that controller itself can do pfsense. Because it is basically a computer/router. And I saw it can do that.

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                                        Gertjan @josephchrzempiec
                                        last edited by Gertjan 18 days ago 18 days ago

                                        @josephchrzempiec said in A lot of users?:

                                        Because it is basically a computer/router.

                                        pfSense is based upon the 'less known' FreeBSD OS (that not MAC OS, neither Windows, neither Linux based).
                                        Normally, a firewall router should stay a firewall router and should (edit) not host a game server, file sever, camera server and so on. "For security reasons".

                                        Remember : the less tricks, tools, gadgets, stuff you use, the easier it is to maintain the system up and running => Keep It Simple. This will also help you keeping the costs down.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          patient0 @Gertjan
                                          last edited by 18 days ago

                                          @Gertjan said in A lot of users?:

                                          and should host also a a game server

                                          did you mean to write: " and should <not> host also a a game server..."?

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