pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img
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Not at this time. New 2.8 installs are via the Net Installer only.
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Off line install v2.7.2 then immediate upgrade to v2.8.0 is still an option I suppose. Not sure if there is any difference in boot environment created.
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Yup you can always do that. No significant difference there.
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@stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
Not at this time. New 2.8 installs are via the Net Installer only.
i.e Not just yet or not on the cards? Our servers get installed over their remote consoles with the media being mapped from local clients. It's been a bit of a ballache to workaround such restrictions.
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@Popolou we are also not happy with this, but Netgate must change this. We can not more than say it's an issue for us.
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No plans to do so I'm aware of. But this is new ground so....
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@stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
No plans to do so I'm aware of. But this is new ground so....
Does need flagging within the org. Reconfiguring (expansive) DC hardware to workaround this is rather abnormal.
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There is awareness where it needs to be.
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@Popolou said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
Our servers get installed over their remote consoles with the media being mapped from local clients. It's been a bit of a ballache to workaround such restrictions.
I’m curious why? The direct installation ISO works and you’re saying the network installer doesn’t, in your setup?
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@stephenw10 Disappointed, this could be so straightforward as it was in the past. This may be worth reconsidering. Thank you.
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Is this new Netgate practice an effort to capture metrics on all installs peformed? Not just the # of new installs (and when and from where), but also the originating IP address and rough geolocation?
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No it's not really about metrics. The Net Installer was required for Plus in order to allow direct installs rather than upgrading everything from CE. Having a single installer for both CE and Plus reduces the test load and possibility of bugs significantly.
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@stephenw10 What a disappointing move. Just another thing to add to the list for not using it anymore.
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@stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
No it's not really about metrics. The Net Installer was required for Plus in order to allow direct installs rather than upgrading everything from CE. Having a single installer for both CE and Plus reduces the test load and possibility of bugs significantly.
Which is fine, but i struggle to see why that specifically precludes a parallel release of an ISO for CE for those who require it for their deployments.
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@Popolou said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
@stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
No it's not really about metrics. The Net Installer was required for Plus in order to allow direct installs rather than upgrading everything from CE. Having a single installer for both CE and Plus reduces the test load and possibility of bugs significantly.
Which is fine, but i struggle to see why that specifically precludes a parallel release of an ISO for CE for those who require it for their deployments.
I AGREE.
I'm still using 2.6.x because it just works. I was never able to upgrade to 2.7.x because of issues with FreeBSD that the BSD folks (all flavors) didn't want to continue to fix. Seems pfSense folks keep trying to force people to move to Plus but I'm just waiting to make my move on to a Linux based system that the BSD folks have been recommending for the last few years because of the hole that BSD has dug.
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I mean there is an ISO image for the Net Installer. I assume you mean an offline install image?
It adds a bunch of testing for us to have multiple installers.
You can still just use the 2.7.2 legacy image and upgrade though.
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@jdeloach said in pfSense 2.8.0 full iso/img:
I was never able to upgrade to 2.7.x because of issues with FreeBSD that the BSD folks (all flavors) didn't want to continue to fix.
What issue was that?
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The Installer is not a new thing. I recognized it and also the discussion about it a time ago. Seems it get's now bigger attention as folks want to upgrade to 2.8.0.
So far I was not able to direkt upgrade from 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. I did everything I was supposed to do by the upgrade guide and it fails. badly.
Systemfiles on boot up weren't be found, everything seemed corrupted.
No time to get deep into it -> Had to get online again.Due to my experiences of the past I had already a stick with 2.7.2 and last config.xml prepared for this case and I got back to 2.7.2 very quickly.
I pulled the net installer (v1.0-rc) and prep'd a second stick.
Tried to configure WAN interface (PPPoE with VLAN) during installation. Device wasn't able to connect to my isp!
Double checked user and password and all settings etc... seemed still fine.Terminated the process and tested my net installer stick inside vm environment. It took more than an hour to install. Machine was Intel Ultra 265 (new Hardware), so that couldn't be an issue, but stick worked fine.
Again tried it afterwards on my life box.... and again no ISP connection.
Got an old Dell R210 Box and managed to get WAN connection by using the net installer usb stick.
The only difference was, that this box only had the WAN interface physically connected and no other interface.Now I tested this exact behavior on my life box (Intel N100). As soon as I had only the WAN interface physically connected, it managed to connect to the ISP and installed 2.8.0 from scratch.
I conclude there might be an issue with having more interfaces physically connected and having to use vlan on ISP side while trying to connect to isp for the first time.
Afterwards it took roughly 30 mins to pull all packets and install them and the box was unconfigured. ISP Data on WAN and LAN Interface basic settings chosen before in the net installer were gone again...
Did a basic configuration, loaded the config.xml and got back online.
All of that took me almost 2 days on national holiday in my country.
Having had a simple iso would have actively saved a lot of time so please take this story into consideration.Thank you
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I'm not happy with the net installer and would prefer an offline installation.
If I make a typo in the PPPoE data, my ISP will block me for 24 hours in the worst case. -
@slu
Yep. Time to move to opnsense.
