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    Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Patch
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      @Patch Iโ€™d start with Ping and DNS on the Diagnostics menu. Seems more like a routing or rule problem if you can get to the pfSense GUI.

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        Patch @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single computer lost pfsense connection:

        Iโ€™d start with Ping and DNS on the Diagnostics menu

        Good call. Which is what I did to get:

        @Patch said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single computer lost pfsense connection:

        pfsense v2.8.0 (192.168.11.1) gets no response from Proxmox (192.168.11.50) but can ping all other local host I have tried

        I have normal access to pfsense as well as the Proxmox GUI.

        DNS lookups appear to function as normal. If there is an address of interest to you I can check that.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @Patch
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          @Patch does pfSense have only one gateway? Try floating state policy? https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190658/firewall-state-policy-floating-states-needed-but-why/5

          Traceroute from Proxmox?

          Check routing table on pfSense?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by stephenw10

            I would also check the states in pfSense when running a ping from Proxmox.

            Also the ARP tables on both. Though since you see the request passed in the logs ARP should be there.

            Are those rules in your screenshot floating or applied to an interface group? I agree the interface state policy change seems more likely here.

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              Patch @SteveITS
              last edited by Patch

              @SteveITS said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection:

              does pfSense have only one gateway?

              Yes

              @stephenw10 said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection:

              Are those rules in your screenshot floating or applied to an interface group?

              Rules shown are for the interface Main (opt1) -> igb1.11 -> v4: 192.168.11.1/24

              The only Floating rule is disabled.
              The only NAT rules on the Main interface are:

              • Enabled DNS on ! Main addresses redirected to 127.0.0.1
              • Disabled NTP on !Main addresses redirected to then problem Proxmox computer

              Given DNS communication to pfsense works (when pfsense had a working NTP and access works from other computer, suggests corrupted rules or similar to me but I'm not sure how to test or correct that theory.

              @SteveITS said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection:

              Traceroute from Proxmox?

              root@pve1:~# traceroute www.google.com
              traceroute to www.google.com (142.250.70.196), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
               1  * * *
               2  * * *
               3  * * *
              

              In comparison another site with almost identical set up (Later MiniPC)

              root@pve4:~# traceroute www.google.com
              traceroute to www.google.com (142.250.70.228), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
               1  192.168.11.1 (192.168.11.1)  0.259 ms  0.239 ms  0.226 ms
               2  Deleted-Text.net (Deleted IP)  8.750 ms  9.100 ms  8.924 ms
              

              Routing table on Proxmox (computer partly lost connection to)

              root@pve1:~# ip r
              default via 192.168.11.1 dev vmbr0 proto kernel onlink 
              192.168.11.0/24 dev vmbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.11.50
              

              Which is very similar to the working site other than host IP

              root@pve4:~# ip r
              default via 192.168.11.1 dev vmbr0 proto kernel onlink 
              192.168.11.0/24 dev vmbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.11.54 
              root@pve4:~#
              

              On pfsense arp -a
              includes

              pve1.work.arpa (192.168.11.50) at 5a:07:9b:13:b1:09 on igb1.11 permanent [vlan]
              

              On Proxmox it appear the net-tools package is not installed

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                That arp entry implies the IP address is used by a local interface in pfSense dircetly. So it looks like you have an IP conflict. It ignores traffic from that address from Proxmox. A VIP perhaps?

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                  Patch @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 Now you are really confusing me
                  The only VIP I have is the entry created by pfBlockerNG

                  I had assumed the above arp entry was from
                  pfsense -> Services -> DHCP Server -> Main (which is on igb1.11) -> includes
                  40 Services - DHCP Server - Main.jpg

                  For completeness Routing table on pfsense but nothing stood out to me

                  netstat -rn
                  
                  Routing tables
                  
                  Internet:
                  Destination        Gateway            Flags         Netif Expire
                  0.0.0.0            redacted.1         UGS            igb0
                  10.10.10.1         link#6             UH              lo0
                  redacted.0/22      link#1             U              igb0
                  redacted.1         link#1             UHS            igb0
                  redacted.255       link#6             UHS             lo0
                  127.0.0.1          link#6             UH              lo0
                  192.168.1.0/24     link#3             U              igb2
                  192.168.1.1        link#6             UHS             lo0
                  192.168.10.0/24    link#2             U              igb1
                  192.168.10.1       link#6             UHS             lo0
                  192.168.11.0/24    link#9             U           igb1.11
                  192.168.11.1       link#6             UHS             lo0
                  192.168.12.0/24    link#10            U           igb1.12
                  192.168.12.1       link#6             UHS             lo0
                  192.168.30.0/24    link#4             U              igb3
                  192.168.30.1       link#6             UHS             lo0
                  AlsoRedacted.5     redacted.1         UGHS           igb0
                  
                  Internet6:
                  Destination                       Gateway                       Flags         Netif Expire
                  ::1                               link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb0/64                    link#1                        U              igb0
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:274f%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb1/64                    link#2                        U              igb1
                  fe80::1:1%lo0                     link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:2754%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb2/64                    link#3                        U              igb2
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:2753%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb3/64                    link#4                        U              igb3
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:2752%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%lo0/64                     link#6                        U               lo0
                  fe80::1%lo0                       link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb1.11/64                 link#9                        U           igb1.11
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:2754%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  fe80::%igb1.12/64                 link#10                       U           igb1.12
                  fe80::2f4:21ff:fe68:2754%lo0      link#6                        UHS             lo0
                  
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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Ah, you have added the static DHCP entry as static ARP also?

                    That's almost always a bad idea IMO! But if that MAC address is correct then it's not the cause of the problem here.

                    If you run a ping from proxmox to pfSense what states are created in the pfSense state table?

                    Try running a pcap in pfSense for that. Is the source MAC what you expect it to be?

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                      Patch @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection:

                      Ah, you have added the static DHCP entry as static ARP also?

                      That's almost always a bad idea IMO!

                      Mmm, so there is a better way I have missed.
                      What is the recommended way of setting client computers IP address from pfsense?

                      @stephenw10 said in Update 2.7.2 to 2.8.0. Single compter lost pfsense connection:

                      But if that MAC address is correct then it's not the cause of the problem here.

                      Oops Bingo
                      Looks like I had an old incorrect MAC.
                      Proxmox GUI requires a static IP so two MAC addresses for one IP is not good.
                      Updated the MAC in pfsense DHCP rectified the communication fault.

                      Thank you for your help in correcting my error.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        You can set a static DHCP lease but not set static ARP. Normally pfSense would just ARP for the IP and update the MAC in the table but if you mark it static things like this can happen. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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