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    Performance regression 2.7.2 to 2.8

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    • fatheadF
      fathead @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 That is it!
      But How do I set the MSS on just the 6RD?
      Besides the MSS on interfaces.php
      It is set currently on the WAN.
      if_pppoe was off at first turning it on did not change; if_pppoe is on currently.
      So rfc5969 says minus 20 bytes, does setting MSS on interfaces.php affect ipv4 as well?!

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Setting MSS in the interface adds pf scrub rules for IPv4 and IPv6 at 40B and 60B below the value set respectively.

        Setting that on the 6RD tunnel would theoretically affect any IPv4 traffic but since it only carries IPv6 it doesn't matter. So you should just be able to set it there.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          If that works and it wasn't required in 2.7.2 then it confirms the regression and we'll dig deeper.

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          • fatheadF
            fathead
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            @stephenw10
            MSS is set to 1472 on the only wan interface, the only other interface is the lan.
            interfaces.php?if=wan How does this not affect ipv4?
            ifconfig shows wan_stf with mtu1472
            How to check MSS or are the pf scrub rules in a file or only in running memory?
            Also does a doc exist on docs.netgate.com about ipv6 packet too big being a default pass rule, is creating a pass rule for this redundant?

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            • fatheadF
              fathead
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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Ah, OK the 6RD tunnel is not exposed dircetly... Hmm. I don't use 6RD.

                So, yes, applying that on the WAN will affect IPv4 traffic. And more importantly may not apply it to traffic inside the 6RD tunnel. Setting it on LAN would though.

                The actual value required may vary but in the one other case I've seen it was 1472.

                We are digging into this....

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @fathead
                  last edited by

                  @fathead said in Performance regression 2.7.2 to 2.8:

                  How to check MSS or are the pf scrub rules in a file or only in running memory?

                  Look at the ruleset file: /tmp/rules.debug

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                  • fatheadF
                    fathead @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 Thank you!
                    Looks like it affects both.
                    before:
                    scrub on $WAN inet all max-mss 1452 fragment reassemble
                    scrub on $WAN_STF inet6 all max-mss 1432 fragment reassemble
                    after setting MSS:
                    scrub on $WAN inet all max-mss 1432 fragment reassemble
                    scrub on $WAN_STF inet6 all max-mss 1412 fragment reassemble
                    What file creates the scrubs that are applied?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Oh, OK. That looks correct then. Except it's not including the 6RD overhead. What we want to see there is:

                      scrub on $WAN inet all max-mss 1452 fragment reassemble
                      scrub on $WAN_STF inet6 all max-mss 1412 fragment reassemble
                      

                      Yeah OK let me dig into this. It's likely a simple patch....

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Can you test a patch?

                        mr1226.diff

                        That should allow if_pppoe to work as expected. mpd5/netgraph is a different matter!

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                        • fatheadF
                          fathead @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 Thanks for the reply!
                          That worked instantly.

                          scrub on $WAN inet all   max-mss 1452 fragment reassemble
                          scrub on $WAN_STF inet6 all   max-mss 1412 fragment reassemble
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Nice 👍

                            And traffic passing as expected?

                            I imagine one of our devs might have a better patch than that but it proves the issue.

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                            • fatheadF
                              fathead @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10
                              99% of FIN_WAIT_2 are gone.
                              WAN side seems OK.
                              LAN side inconsistently get NO_TRAFFIC:NO_TRAFFIC with 64:ff9b::7f00:1

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Hmm, that could be nothing if you're not seeing connection issues at the clients.

                                You could try setting a slightly lower MSS value and see if it changes anything.

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                                • fatheadF
                                  fathead @stephenw10
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                                  ping6 -s56 64:ff9b::7f00:1
                                  ping6 -s32 64:ff9b::7f00:1
                                  Sometimes works, sometimes does not.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmm, just with different ping sizes?

                                    MSS has no effect on pings, only TCP. So nothing should have changed there.

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                                    • fatheadF
                                      fathead @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10
                                      ping6 from lan side to pfSense it self and lan to lan.
                                      I have only tested with small packets, however so far size does not matter.

                                      Both fail sometimes:
                                      ping6 -s56 64:ff9b::7f00:1
                                      ping6 -s32 64:ff9b::7f00:1
                                      Even the default address of 64:ff9b::c0a8:101 sometimes fails.
                                      What I do not understand is why it comes and goes.
                                      setting lan side mtu/mss to 1.4k, 1.5k or 9k changes nothing.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @fathead
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                                        @fathead said in Performance regression 2.7.2 to 2.8:

                                        ping6 from lan side to pfSense it self and lan to lan.

                                        Hmm, well that would have nothing to do with the pppoe change on WAN. Something local blocking traffic?

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                                        • fatheadF
                                          fathead @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Only package installed is System_Patches for that one patch and all lan firewall rules are pass except port 53.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            And you only see this for ping6? Internal IPv4 traffic is unaffected?

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