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    Performance regression 2.7.2 to 2.8

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    • fatheadF
      fathead
      last edited by

      Block private networks and loopback addresses
      Is enabled on wan, turning that off is all the same high cpu.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Oh this is on the PPPoE WAN?

        That's a known issue: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16235

        Try the patch refferenced there.

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        • fatheadF
          fathead @stephenw10
          last edited by fathead

          @stephenw10 Yes the PPPoE WAN.
          Is this the patch?
          This patch does fix high cpu, however when a VIP is set on wan, it breaks the whole nat 64:ff9b::/96 address space, or is a reload/restart needed?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yup without that when you add a VIP on a PPPoE WAN and have if_pppoe enabled then the connection loops continually. The logs will have shown it reconnecting every few seconds which obviously load the CPU significantly.

            So how exactly does NAT64 fail?

            What are you using that VIP for?

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            • fatheadF
              fathead @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10

              So how exactly does NAT64 fail?

              Native v6 traffic is normal.
              Outside NAT64 so far is not working with a VIP set on wan.
              The VIPs them selves are reachable example 64:ff9b::10.0.0.3

              WAN	ipv6-icmp	10.0.0.4:1 (fdbb::8[1]) -> 77.47.127.138:8 (64:ff9b::100:1[1])	NO_TRAFFIC:NO_TRAFFIC	2 / 2	160 B / 120 B
              

              What are you using that VIP for?

              v4 VIPs for ping, v6 VIPs for DNS.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @fathead
                last edited by

                @fathead said in Performance regression 2.7.2 to 2.8:

                Outside NAT64 so far is not working with a VIP set on wan.

                OK so you are setting that VIP just as something to ping from a V6 only client device?

                Can I assume it still responds to ping from an internal IPv4 client?

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                • fatheadF
                  fathead @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10

                  OK so you are setting that VIP just as something to ping from a V6 only client device?

                  Can I assume it still responds to ping from an internal IPv4 client?

                  Yes and yes.

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                  • fatheadF
                    fathead
                    last edited by

                    Furthermore 64:ff9b::c0a8:100/120 is passed on the lan, at some point in the past two days this stopped working.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Oh so dhcpv6 stopped working you mean by passed?

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                      • fatheadF
                        fathead @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10
                        Firewall rule set to pass LAN subnets to 64:ff9b::c0a8:100/120
                        64:ff9b::c0a8:101(pfSense it self) was the only address replying.

                        tcpdump on pfSense show the wrong ip(the VIP) and not the interface IP(192.168.1.1).
                        Removing all v4 VIPs from lan restores reachabilit. v4 VIPs on localhost are different some how.
                        Before:

                        16:52:35.520044 IP 10.0.0.1 > 192.168.1.100: ICMP echo request, id 179, seq 1, length 64
                        

                        After v4 VIPs removed:

                        17:08:30.209222 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.100: ICMP echo request, id 182, seq 10740, length 64
                        17:08:30.209351 IP 192.168.1.100 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP echo reply, id 182, seq 10740, length 64
                        

                        The 64:ff9b::c0a8:100/120 rule is above the 64:ff9b::/96 rule.
                        NAT64 and v4 VIPs alias on wan and/or lan are not playing nicely.

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                        • M
                          marcosm Netgate
                          last edited by marcosm

                          The issue is that the "Automatic" NAT64 source option in the rule leaves things up to the OS itself. Hence the source tends to be the first address on the interface (e.g. 10.0.0.1). To address that issue a GUI option exists to override the source. For example:
                          5bb6039e-5ddf-4b3d-85a7-4fde4e0b4b14-image.png

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                          • fatheadF
                            fathead @marcosm
                            last edited by

                            @marcosm The source has always been set to "LAN subnets".

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              It's the 'Address Family Translation' source that must be set to 'LAN address' rather than the default 'Automatic' where it's choosing the VIP.

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                              • fatheadF
                                fathead @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10
                                'Address Family Translation' is also set to 'LAN address'.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Hmm, then maybe it's not matching the test traffic somehow?

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                                  • fatheadF
                                    fathead @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10

                                    Hmm, then maybe it's not matching the test traffic somehow?

                                    How to see what it is matching with?

                                    For testing, made a do nothing OPT1, setting v4 VIPs on loopback and OPT1 does not seem break lan to lan or lan to wan.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Mmm, I'd only expect the VIP to make any difference on LAN. For some reason it's choosing to use the first IP on the interface (the VIP) as the source for the translation.

                                      If you run pfctl -vss you can see the states with the rules that created them.

                                      Then if you run pfctl -vvsr you can see the ruleset with numbers to see what the rule is.

                                      However since this is a NAT64 rule I'm not 100% sure how it will appear!

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                                      • fatheadF
                                        fathead @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10

                                        Mmm, I'd only expect the VIP to make any difference on LAN.

                                        Exactly, 64:ff9b::c0a8:100/120 is affected by ipv4 LAN VIPs.

                                        pfctl -vss

                                        igb1 ipv6-icmp 10.0.0.4:1 (fd22::8[1]) -> 192.168.1.100:8 (64:ff9b::c0a8:164[1])       NO_TRAFFIC:NO_TRAFFIC
                                           age 00:00:18, expires in 00:00:07, 4:4 pkts, 320:240 bytes, rule 117
                                        

                                        pfctl -vvsr

                                        @117 pass in quick on igb1 inet6 from fd22::/64 to 64:ff9b::c0a8:100/120 flags S/SA keep state (if-bound) label "USER_RULE" label "id:1748759142" ridentifier 1748759142 af-to inet from (igb1)
                                          [ Evaluations: 760       Packets: 52        Bytes: 3640        States: 1     ]
                                        
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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok I think we see a problem here. Digging...

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                                          • M
                                            marcosm Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks for testing! A redmine has been created for this issue:
                                            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16250

                                            A patch is available there to test with the System Patches package; make sure to reload the filter under Status > Filter Reload after applying the patch.

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