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    Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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      @netboy ^that and it kind of depends whether you want to measure through the 2100 or without it.

      The 2100 will max out around 600-700 Mbps due to its CPU.

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        netboy @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS said in Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?:

        The 2100 will max out around 600-700 Mbps due to its CPU.

        Wow! This is what I am experiencing and never new there is a max cap! I have 1 Gig fiber and have a client connected to the network and get speeds ranging from 675 to 750 - Which seems like "normal" from your reply? Can you kindly explain why CPU is a bottleneck? Upgrading to Netgate 4200 will help?

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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          @netboy Yes, if you check with โ€œtopโ€ running Iโ€™d expect it to be maxed out. :-/

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            netboy @SteveITS
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            @SteveITS Is this because of limitations of Marvel Chip? Is the CPU of 4200 more powerful and will I get the full 1 Gig speed?

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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              @netboy Itโ€™s an ARM CPU. The 4200 is a giant step up.

              In general my rule of thumb is about halfway between the published benchmark specs:

              2100:
              Firewall
              (10k ACLs)
              IPERF3 Traffic: 964 Mbps
              IMIX Traffic: 249 Mbps

              4200:
              Firewall
              (10k ACLs)
              IPERF3 Traffic: 8.61 Gbps
              IMIX Traffic: 3.21 Gbps

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                netboy @SteveITS
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                @SteveITS Thx I do not mind buying netgate 4200 - Is it easy to dowload the config from 2100 and upload to 4200 are there are some gotchas? How easy is it to transfer my existing config from 2100 to 4200?

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                  SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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                  @netboy Short answer, yes you can just restore. Especially if using WAN and LAN.

                  If you have VLANs or a complex config Netgate will convert the config file for you for free.

                  You might note the default power settings and interface assignments before restoring. And maybe save the default factory config file for later comparison.

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                    JKnott @netboy
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                    @netboy said in Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?:

                    Wow! This is what I am experiencing and never new there is a max cap!

                    My connection via cable modem is 1.5 Gb down. However, my hardware is only capable of 1 Gb and I see about 930 on speedtest, with a computer behind pfSense.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                      netboy @JKnott
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                      @JKnott said in Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?:

                      My connection via cable modem is 1.5 Gb down

                      Do you have netgate 2100 or 4200?

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                        JKnott @netboy
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                        @netboy said in Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?:

                        o you have netgate 2100 or 4200?

                        Neither. I have a miniPC, as described in my sig.

                        However, this situation illustrates a coming trend where our hardware isn't fast enough to keep up with the Internet connection. Even before that, I noticed faster connections didn't make a noticeable difference in my usage.

                        My ISP is moving to DOCSIS 4, which can greatly increase bandwidth in both directions. But to take full advantage, I'd have to replace all my hardware and I really don't feel the need to do that.

                        BTW, the first time I saw a 10 Gb fibre connection, it was in a data centre for a major bank. Now individuals are approaching that for their home connection. Do we really need it?

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          netboy @JKnott
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                          @JKnott netgaate must come out with something like https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-cloud-gateways/products/ucg-ultra
                          Compact with IDS/IPS Throughput of 1Gig guranteed! and interestingly the price is only $129!

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @netboy
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                            @netboy so it won't do your 1.5ge then.. It seems odd setup it has 1 2.5ge, but all others are 1ge - so how would you get your 1.5 from your isp to a single device.. Sure multiple devices might be able to leverage your 1.5 total. But with those ports, even with ips/ids off your not going to be able leverage more than 1ge for a connection.

                            But yeah that is a very attractive price point.. You should order one and give it a go - let us know how it turns out. My guess is their selling at a loss and hoping to make it up with the 99$ a year subscription for cybersecure/proofpoint.

                            I use to have a usgp3 - and unless they have made drastic changes to how you do firewall rules - they were horrible to work with. I had gotten it to temp allow me to leverage my 500mbps internet when I upgraded and the 4860 was on backorder. But it could do no where close to that with their IPS/IDS enabled..

                            I pulled it out of the network the day my 4860 was delivered ;) But it wasn't a bad product to be honest, and had a great price point.

                            Might not be a bad piece of kit to have laying around as a backup to my pfsense..

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                              netboy @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz said in Is it possible to determine the internet speed at the router (netgate 2100)?:

                              You should order one and give it a go - let us know how it turns out

                              No way! I like my netgate 2100.

                              Witth the great help from this forum, I was able to configure 2 VLAN kind of setup WITH dumb switches (not managed).

                              @dennypage helped me to setup NUT as well. Thx Denny!

                              I only hope netgate comes with a similar product for prosumer along with 8 port POE++ switch etc just like ubiquiti. My understanding is netgate farms out hardware and is not manufactured in-house. Netgate needs to up their game !

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