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    • planedropP
      planedrop @greatbush
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      @greatbush And it's tagged on the other end of the switch going to the firewall?

      And to be clear, you did not configure the VLAN on the server, right? Since the switch is handling the tagging for you.

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        greatbush @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz The test pc can ping pfsense ip for the s interface. The test pc is unable to ping pfsense ip for the server network.
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          greatbush @planedrop
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          @planedrop No there are no vlans on the server. And yes its tagged on the trunk port. I have dhcp enabled for this interface and i am able to pull an from the pool i specified.

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          • planedropP
            planedrop @greatbush
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            @greatbush I think it's time to start packet captures.

            From the rule you showed, that device on S should be able to ping across to Servers.

            I would start a pcap on the S interface, then ping the server IP and see if you get ICMP packets to show up on the S interface.

            If you do, then go to the Servers interface and do a pcap there and see if the ICMP packets show up there, this will tell you where the breakdown is. If they do show up, then it's not the firewall, if they don't then something is blocking them.

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              greatbush @planedrop
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              @planedrop i have done that. all i see are echo ping requests but no response hence why i am scratching my head. I know the rules on the server interface aren't meant to be there but i was hoping that would fix the issue which it didn't

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              • planedropP
                planedrop @greatbush
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                @greatbush Did you do the pcaps on both interfaces from the pfSense side?

                So you're seeing the echo requests, and you see them hit the S interface, and then also see them leave the Servers interface?

                If that is the case, then your device on the Server interface isn't responding and the issue isn't pfSense specific.

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @greatbush
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                  @greatbush said in Intervlan traffic being blocked:

                  The test pc is unable to ping pfsense ip for the server network.

                  Well then something is wrong.. is your client not using pfsense as its gateway - or is it running vpn?

                  On your pcap you did on the S interface you see the ping request from your S client to pfsense server IP?

                  I would guess possible mask issue maybe on your client - but that sure can not be the case if your pc is a 10 network and your server network is 172.x etc..

                  Hmmm - this is turning out to be something interesting with the info so far. You have no rules in floating? I would guess maybe a vpn on the pc? Like to see the pcap to pfsense S interface.. Its being sent to the pfsense mac address of S interface with destination IP of pfsense server IP.

                  example - I can simulate what sounds like your saying is happening by pinging an IP on another network on pfsense that doesn't exist.

                  So pc on my lan 192.168.9.0/24 pinging 192.168.3.14 (doesn't exist) but pfsense has an network 192.168.3.0/24

                  Notice the mac address it is sending to is pfsense mac address of my my lan interface on pfsense (192.168.9.253)

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                  See how the mac in my packet capture is pfsense lan mac address.

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                  If you are seeing similar when you sniff on S interface of pfsense - I can only guess floating rule blocking the traffic. Or something not right in pfsense.. Or like me your pinging an IP that doesn't exist? You sure you are pinging pfsense Server interface IP - etc..

                  edit: just for complete example - here is my pinging the actual IP of pfsense interface on that network 192.168.3.253.. See how the capture shows it still sending it to the lan mac address of pfsense.

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                    greatbush @planedrop
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                    @johnpoz @planedrop From the S interface
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                    Server interface
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                    Pfsense log
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                    • planedropP
                      planedrop @greatbush
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                      @greatbush Is it possible the subnet is configured wrong? Like, is the Servers interface actually setup with the right subnet and mask?

                      From what I am seeing, pfSense is getting the packet and allowing the connection, but if you don't see it on Servers, then for some reason pfSense isn't routing it to that interface.

                      Which means maybe the interface is setup wrong, or maybe pfSense's routing table has another entry from something like BGP?

                      Check your Route Table on pfSense: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/monitoring/status/routes.html

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                        greatbush @planedrop
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                        @planedrop i am hundred percent sure it is
                        test pc
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                        • planedropP
                          planedrop
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                          What about the Servers interface though? The 172 network.

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                            greatbush @planedrop
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                            @planedrop For the route
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                              planedrop @greatbush
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                              @greatbush I think we are getting closer, if that is your entire routing table, then pfSense does not have a clue where to route the 172 network, so it's just going to send it to it's default route which is likely your gateway, unless I am misunderstanding something about your configuration.

                              Is the Servers interface properly configured? Not the S but the Servers one.

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                                greatbush @greatbush
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                                @greatbush The server network is fine. It can reach my other subnets without any issue. Hmm. I don't know if this is going to help. the 10.20.160.x was the network at another site and an ipsec tunnel was setup for that site.
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                                I don't know if this might be causing issues.

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                                  greatbush @planedrop
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                                  @planedrop Server network
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                                  • planedropP
                                    planedrop @greatbush
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                                    @greatbush I don't think IPsec is the issue here, you would see the ICMP responses on the Servers interface if that was the case, they just wouldn't route back to the S interface.

                                    Again though, it looks to me like pfSense doesn't have a routing table entry for the 172. network so those echo request are never going to get to a device on any network, it'll just send them through it's default gateway, which is presumably your internet provider.

                                    Also, why are you configuring actual networks on the Unifi side? Those should be VLAN only networks since you're using a 3rd party gateway (pfSense) for them. I don't think that is what is breaking things here but was worth mentioning.

                                    I did just see that you're using Broadcom NICs though, check out this just in case cuz it might affect pings: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/hardware/tune.html#packet-loss-with-many-small-udp-packets:~:text=and%20disable%20msix.-,Packet%20loss%20with%20many%20(small)%20UDP%20packets,-%C2%B6

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                                      greatbush @greatbush
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                                      @greatbush route for server
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                                      I inherited the network so i am going with the flow. I have made the changes and its the same result for the ping. I was able to get the ping to work last week friday but i was not keeping track on the changes i was making. Will creating a static route help? I read that this isn't needed since pfsense knows the route
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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @greatbush
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                                        @greatbush on your sniff - what is the mac address - have no idea why you searched for 10.20.x.x as a src IP?

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @greatbush
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                                          @greatbush There is no way your system is working how you think it is - where are the rest of your networks??

                                          Here is a routing table on pfsense with multiple interfaces.

                                          Here is a snip of mine.
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                                          See multiple local interface, some native some vlans - notice a wan route - etc..

                                          How would pfsense be doing any routing if all it shows is 1 network??

                                          edit: oh I snipped off the top part showing the default route - see how it points to an IP on my wan interface 209.x.x.x network

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                                          How would pfsense route between 2 networks when it doesn't even show that its connected to it in the routing table?

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                                            greatbush @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz the mac address is 98:fc:84:d1:db:44.
                                            I used the filer 'eth.addr == 98:fc:84:d1:db:44' and searched the other pcap files but the only thing that shows up is the echo ping request.
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                                            For some reason its not reach the 172.16.64.1 interface.

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