Goodbye pfSense
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I think it's time to move on from pfSense and go to a real open source project like pfSense once was.
Netgate came in and profit is their main concern, completely normal but what was was a opensource gem has turned into a push to get customers and the "Community Edition" is like the red headed step child that doesn't get the attention it deserves.
It was a good 11 year run.
Thank you pfSense, good bye.
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@X-File
Agree with your concerns about Netgate and open source, but a community edition grows and lives from the contributions of the community.
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@viragomann said in Goodbye pfSense:
@X-File
Agree with your concerns about Netgate and open source, but a community edition grows and lives from the contributions of the community.
However, according to your profile it seems, you didn't contribute very much here. So why complaining?I'm sorry I did not meet your standard of contributing "enough". You may have the time to sit on these forums all day every day with your 14,000 posts but I have a life.
Take care.
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@X-File Are you moving to OPNsense?
It makes no difference to me me if you leave or stay and I wish no ill will. I am curious why are you leaving right after both products received updates?
For me, I like the fact pfSense is not updated often. I do not like having to update and slow updates are a strong indication of a stable product. IMO Netgate has been quick to resolve security problems and slow (potentially an understatement) to add features. Do you feel the same way? -
@X-File said in Goodbye pfSense:
Netgate came in and profit is their main concern
You know that pfSense was primarily created by this company you claim "came in", right?
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@tinfoilmatt said in Goodbye pfSense:
Clearly
Who wants to tell him that 14,000 posts over 10+ years is only 4/day?
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This is some serious attention seeking.
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@rcoleman612 hahahha - its more like 3 posts a day 3.13 or something like that.. He has been on the forums for 11.5 years and only has 13.2k posts.. So no where close to 4 posts a day on average ;)
Rookie numbers really ;) heheheh
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@johnpoz Just doing some rough math... seems to be the way things go around here... rough'em up, do crystal math.... commit MRs...
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@Fraggi77 said in Goodbye pfSense:
But, lets go with OPNsense.
Who is exactly the one who came in for the money.
This isn't 2000. 25 years have passed. Software takes time to maintain.
Someone has to pay for that.
Far too many good pieces of software have ended in a graveyard, just because
The freemium model seems to work better.Good luck with imitations, more or less cheap. (in price or the technology)
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What I really appreciate about pfSense is the level of control and flexibility it offers. If you’re not comfortable with a particular software version, you're free to stick with an older one—there’s no pressure or forced updates, and certainly no invasive tactics to push you forward. The platform is highly customizable, which is great for tailoring it to specific needs.
I also value the responsiveness of the team—every Redmine ticket I’ve submitted has received attention. Sure, some take time, but they do follow through. The community is another strong point: the forums are active, helpful, and inclusive. As a computer science student, I’ve never felt like an outsider. It genuinely feels like being part of a team. I hope you find what you’re looking for. -
I think this is a "problem" with BSD style license; someone can make a profit off it without being forced to release changes to the world at no cost.
I've been playing around with OpnSense 25.7 on some spare hardware.
Honestly the biggest difference I've seen is in the web interface.
Comparing the two forums? Both have equal knowledge on the product, the veterans that answer the newbie questions (repeatedly). pfSense having a "paid" aspect is likely a bit more responsive to paid customer issues, but OpnSense has a "Business Edition" that seems akin to NetGate model.
It's a minor difference in the default position: pfSense as a business with Community Edition if you don't need support or secret saue, OpnSense as OpenSource/Communitiy Edition with Business if you need it.
Some people are going to prefer the OpnSense UI/UX others the pfSense. It's like perferring KDE or Gnome3 as a DE.As long as the product does what you need, at a price you are comfortable with, that's all that matters.
OpenSource and who is more better at doing that? Sixes and Threes. If pfSense CE keeps rolling out and staying up to date and provides 90% of what 90% users need, good. The other 10% of users have reasons for wanting to buy the extra special sauce.
I've seen threads like this on other forums, across lots of different topics and honestly they come across as a cry for attention.
You don't like what the project, that you are not paying for, is doing or the direction it's going? Well, just leave. Don't make a big woe is me announcement.
Do you make a big announcement that you are going to buy a Chevy instead of a Ford? -
@mer said in Goodbye pfSense:
Do you make a big announcement that you are going to buy a Chevy instead of a Ford?
Sure I go to all the other forums of every other car maker to let them know what I bought - doesn't everyone <rolleyes>
They are always very sad and disappointed, and beg me to reconsider
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I think it's time one of the MODS lock this thread.
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S stephenw10 locked this topic
