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    • zoqaskZ Offline
      zoqask
      last edited by zoqask

      I have had a search around but couldn't find the exact answer. Been using pfsense for many years. And updates appeared and rolled out flawlessly.

      My dashboard says

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      And my update area show this.

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      Question should I be running on 2.7.2? If so how do I go about initiating the upgrade or do I have to update to 2.7.1 first? Some advice would be great thanks. As I sy this has been seemless before and we have this little quirk.

      Advice appreciated thanks.

      this is community edition. yes it appears outdated I know. But it didn't raise an alarm for being out of date.

      Q\ Will running update from console at console pull the latest version automatically?

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        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @zoqask
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        @zoqask If offered there, you can skip versions.

        Also see https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/2-7-1.html#troubleshooting

        Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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          SteveITS Rebel Alliance @zoqask
          last edited by

          @zoqask re: console, you still need to set the branch. That’s required going forward instead of leaving it at “current.”

          Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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          • zoqaskZ Offline
            zoqask
            last edited by zoqask

            Thanks for that so selecting 2.7.2 and running a console update should do the trick then by the sounds of it.

            I have an identical hardware box sitting in the corner. gave it a wan and it seemed to progress through the updates right up to 2.8 using the command console.

            finger crossed for this box although I can export the config over to this other box for test knowing it would actually upgrade is it should helps.

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Yup you can go straight to 2.7.2. Then you will see 2.8.0 and can upgrade to that. Or wait for 2.8.1 real-soon-now.

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              • zoqaskZ Offline
                zoqask
                last edited by

                Thanks all.

                I tried it from command line and I get this t then just exits.

                *Question* Any ideas what command I can run in the shell to pull the 2.7.2? Really not sure. For some reason I think the update has borked somewhere hence the lack of dashboard notifications.

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                My gui settings are

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Run at the command line: certctl rehash
                  Then try again.

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                  • zoqaskZ Offline
                    zoqask
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for that. In reality and from my screenshots previous what do you think has happened to cause this?. I know you don't have a crystal ball but identifying why these updates didn't register / notify would be good the know.

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                      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @zoqask
                      last edited by

                      @zoqask Well per the link I posted above, "Due to changes in pkg, the new version of pkg may not be able to properly locate and use the CA trust store when running on the previous version before upgrading." A lot of (all) people had to run that command to be able to update.

                      Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                      • zoqaskZ Offline
                        zoqask
                        last edited by

                        Ok understood. I will try it out of hours and see if it gets a result.

                        Thanks in advance to both of you if t does🤝.

                        If it doesn't work I will post a screenshot. Hopefully if this is a common issue indeed its tried / tested and a recurring theme is the past (As you say). Having had others wipe the sweat from their brow hopefully I can as well.

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yup it was a known bug in 2.7.0. It's fixed in 2.7.2 forward.

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                          • zoqaskZ Offline
                            zoqask
                            last edited by

                            Ran certctl rehash

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                            I now get update request. So its a case of waiting for the right time out of hours now and trying it out.

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                            Out of interest, when you progress in the command line and is says saving old kernel etc. If the install fails for some reason how do you revert back to the previous version. This may be an incredibly overly simplified question but some sort of command line fu would be helpful for those of us that aren't clocking into these appliances every day.

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You can choose to boot the old kernel at the bootloader menu. But that's only the kernel, it will still fail to boot if the rest of the system is broken.

                              In ZFS you can create a snapshot boot environment before upgrading you can roll back to. Plus does that automatically.

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                              • zoqaskZ Offline
                                zoqask
                                last edited by zoqask

                                Morning all.

                                Well it updated to 2.7.2 and appears to all work. Thats good.

                                Do I have to re run the certctl rehash for 2.8? Reason I'm asking is is the dashboard said 2.8.1 is available but running 13 console update just says all the repositories are up to date and doesn't proceed with the upgrade.

                                After clicking the refresh icon on the dashboard I see this. But I always use the console and don't really feel comfortable with using the gui.

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                                Do I have to select 2.8 from the stable branch here first?

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                                Lots of questions but this is a major jump just doing due diligence.

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                                  patient0 @zoqask
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                                  @zoqask said in Update Clarity:

                                  Do I have to re run the certctl rehash for 2.8? Reason I'm asking is is the dashboard said 2.8.1 is available but running 13 console update just says all the repositories are up to date and doesn't proceed with the upgrade.

                                  You don't have to run rehash again, no. But you will have select the 2.8.1 branch in the GUI, System / Update / System Update beforehand.

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                                    zoqask @patient0
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                                    @patient0 thanks for that.

                                    I did the update and get this message at the end.

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                                    Any idea if when I reboot the system will run? this may mean my temp files are taking up too much space. I just don't want to reboot and break the whole system for now.

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                                      patient0 @zoqask
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                                      @zoqask said in Update Clarity:

                                      Any idea if when I reboot the system will run?

                                      I'm not sure, no. I'd say it's as it is written, the EFI partition has not enough space to update the boot loader.

                                      I would try what is suggested: mount the EFI partition and check for file you can delete (but not sure how to know what to delete). And search the forum for similar errors.

                                      Maybe @stephenw10 has an idea what can be delete from the EFI partition, and how to run to boot code upgrade again.

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                                      • zoqaskZ Offline
                                        zoqask @patient0
                                        last edited by

                                        @patient0 maybe Stephen has some ideas.

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                                          SteveITS Rebel Alliance @zoqask
                                          last edited by

                                          @zoqask search the forum too, pretty sure I’ve seen discussions about that. Or just reinstall which will fix that and use the ZFS file system by default.

                                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/backup/restore-during-install.html

                                          Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                                          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                          • stephenw10S Offline
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            It will probably boot with the old loader but I haven't tested that directly on CE. It's much more of an issue in arm64.

                                            But I would prepare to reinstall if you have to. It's unclear from that output whether it removed the old loader. It shouldn't if it can't update it.

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