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    • dennypageD Offline
      dennypage @SteveITS
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      @SteveITS said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

      @dennypage said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

      "libutil.so.10" not found

      hmm, see: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198800/solved-pkg-upgrade-not-found-required-by-pkg/2

      And thanks, I had missed that post.

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        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @dennypage
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        @dennypage said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

        version 2.2.2_2 of pkg

        May have been pulled yesterday by https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198787/what-is-it-25.11.a.20250916.0600/6 as that was logged on the router I used. I haven't tried running pkg though.

        Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
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        • dennypageD Offline
          dennypage @SteveITS
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          @SteveITS said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

          May have been pulled yesterday by https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198787/what-is-it-25.11.a.20250916.0600/6 as that was logged on the router I used. I haven't tried running pkg though.

          Sure enough:

          <13>1 2025-09-16T10:23:23.770794-07:00 fw pkg-static 66477 - - pkg upgraded: 1.21.3_5 -> 2.2.2_2
          

          I didn't take any action to initiate that which makes me rather uncomfortable.

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            SteveITS Rebel Alliance @dennypage
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            @dennypage You logged in ~1 minute before that. :) I think it's part of the dashboard update check.

            Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
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            • dennypageD Offline
              dennypage @SteveITS
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              @SteveITS said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

              You logged in ~1 minute before that. :) I think it's part of the dashboard update check.

              LOL, yes.

              However, any package / firmware changes need to require an explicit action to be taken by an administrator. Simply logging in definitely should never constitute such an action.

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                SteveITS Rebel Alliance @dennypage
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                @dennypage That's a valid question. In general, in the past the "current" branch would change versions over time and presumably the update was tied to checking the new version. So it's not new behavior AFAIK but I wonder if it's still necessary.

                FWIW this is also (seems) related to the "another instance is running" warning when logging in and immediately trying to update. On slower/ARM devices it can take a few minutes to update pkg and after that log entry appears the "other instance" is no longer running, in my experience.

                That said though, I checked my home router and it was 29 hours after the login so seems unrelated:

                Sep 15 11:28:06 	php-fpm 	23574 	/index.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: _____ (Local Database) 
                Sep 16 16:31:44 	pkg-static 	7428 	pkg upgraded: 1.21.3_5 -> 2.2.2_2
                

                I checked a 2100 where the last login was Sept 11 and it doesn't have pkg upgrading at all, until I logged in just now. Here's the delay for pkg there. Note the different version:

                Sep 17 15:51:51 	php-fpm 	93201 	/index.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: _______ (Local Database) 
                Sep 17 15:59:32 	pkg-static 	69005 	pkg upgraded: 1.21.3_4 -> 1.21.3_5
                
                

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                  SteveITS Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                  I made a redmine for the pkg update delay.

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                  When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Hmm, yes pkg is upgraded by pfSense-upgrade during the check to be sure it can check for pkgs! ๐Ÿ˜‰ But it can result in that ugly error. pkg-static should always work though as you found.

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                      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                      said in pkg broken in 25.07.1?:

                      I made a redmine for the pkg update delay.

                      Jim replied to it already, short version, it's already solved. "...in Plus 25.11 and CE 2.9.0 the certutil program has been rewritten in C upstream and now completes in <1 second even on 1100."

                      Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Yup, it's waaaay faster!

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