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      sullrich
      last edited by

      @buraglio:

      In reading the RFC (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2865.html Section 5.2), it sounds like it's skipping the second step to me:       
           
            If the password is longer than 16 characters, a second one-way MD5
            hash is calculated over a stream of octets consisting of the
            shared secret followed by the result of the first xor.  That hash
            is XORed with the second 16 octet segment of the password and
            placed in the second 16 octets of the String field of the User-
            Password Attribute.

      If necessary, this operation is repeated, with each xor result
            being used along with the shared secret to generate the next hash
            to xor the next segment of the password, to no more than 128
            characters.

      This isn't really my core competency so I may be wrong.

      Heh.  We'll definately want to get these fixes back to m0n0wall once this is settled.

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        buraglio
        last edited by

        I'm going to do more reading on it.  Do you believe that the asumption that it is skipping the second step (as referenced above) is correct?

        https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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          sullrich
          last edited by

          @buraglio:

          I'm going to do more reading on it.  Do you believe that the asumption that it is skipping the second step (as referenced above) is correct?

          Yep.

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            billm
            last edited by

            OK, I have something for you to test - it's not complete, but it'll allow you (hopefully) to test passwords up to 32 chars.  If it works, I'll clean it up a bit and make it support the full 128 chars we should.

            http://www.pfsense.org/~billm/radius_auth.diff

            –Bill

            pfSense core developer
            blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
            twitter - billmarquette

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              buraglio
              last edited by

              Excellent, I'll patch and have some results for you by early tomorrow.

              nb

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                billm
                last edited by

                Just updated the patch - should work up to 128 chars now.  I'll run some quick tests through it myself.

                –Bill

                pfSense core developer
                blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                twitter - billmarquette

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                  buraglio
                  last edited by

                  What version are you patching this against?  I'm running BETA2 (BETA4 has issues booting on my dell 2850's) and had some errors with redirection after applying the patch.  I updated to the /usr/local/captiveportal in CVS (as well as added the authLDAP.inc that it requires) but still have some errors.  I'd like to mirror what you have been testing on if possible to rule out any version issues.

                  https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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                    billm
                    last edited by

                    @buraglio:

                    What version are you patching this against?  I'm running BETA2 (BETA4 has issues booting on my dell 2850's) and had some errors with redirection after applying the patch.  I updated to the /usr/local/captiveportal in CVS (as well as added the authLDAP.inc that it requires) but still have some errors.  I'd like to mirror what you have been testing on if possible to rule out any version issues.

                    I don't have the box in front of my now that I'm at work, but it should apply cleanly against revision 1.12.2.1 of radius_authentication.inc:
                    http://pfsense.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/pfSense/usr/local/captiveportal/radius_authentication.inc?rev=1.12.2.1;content-type=text%2Fplain

                    Here's the patched Encrypt() function (all I changed)

                    
                    /*
                     * $password = users password
                     * $key = shared secret
                     * $RA = Request Authenticator (random value it seems like)
                     */
                    function Encrypt($password,$key,$RA) {
                            global $debug;
                    
                            if ($debug)
                                echo "
                    key: $key
                    password: $password
                    
                    * * *
                    
                    \n";
                    
                            $output="";
                            $passlen = strlen($password);
                            /* figure out the number of xor rounds we need to run through */
                            for ($i=16; $i <= 128; $i += 16) {
                                    if ($len <= $i) {
                                            $rounds = $i/16;
                                            break;
                                    }
                            }
                    
                            $z = 0; // How many chars have we xor'd
                            for ($x=1; $x<=$rounds; $x++) {
                                    $keyRA=$key.$RA;
                                    $md5checksum=md5($keyRA);
                    
                                    // Loop 16 times (md5() output / 2)
                                    // This limits the effective password to 16 characters - is this really in the radius spec???
                                    for ($i=0;$i<=15;$i++) {
                                            // Convert md5 hex output to decimal (md5 lengths are 32 chars)
                                            if (2*$i>32) $m=0; else $m=hexdec(substr($md5checksum,2*$i,2));
                                            // get the decimal character value for this character in the password
                                            if ($z>$passlen-1) $p=0; else $p=ord(substr($password,$z,1));
                                            // xor the md5 character with the password character
                                            $c=$m^$p;
                                            // Convert back to 8-bit output
                                            $output.=chr($c);
                                            $z++;
                                    }
                                    $RA=$output;
                            }
                    
                            return $output;
                    }
                    
                    

                    –Bill

                    pfSense core developer
                    blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                    twitter - billmarquette

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                      buraglio
                      last edited by

                      OK, I got it all cleaned up and patched it.  It is yielding the same error from the debug info.  From the debug output it looks liek it's grabbing 16 characters.

                      "username is blahblah with len 8 encryptedpassword is …........with len 16 ........"

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                        billm
                        last edited by

                        Any debug from the Encrypt() function?  I tested it with 15-17 character passwords and it seemed to do the right thing there.  I don't have a way to test against RADIUS, but the function looks good now :-/

                        –Bill

                        pfSense core developer
                        blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                        twitter - billmarquette

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                          buraglio
                          last edited by

                          No real debug info from the Encrypt() function.  I can dig a little deeper.  I can also give you access to the box if you'd like.

                          https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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                            buraglio
                            last edited by

                            So it does allow for shorter paswords but generates some errors:

                            
                            radius-port: 1812
                            radius-host: 10.10.102.2
                            username: blahblah
                            
                            key: TestRadiusKey
                            password: testpasswd
                            username is blahblah with len 8 encryptedpassword is šJ»[à6%¤2ÍǃhÄ with len 10 nasHostname is portal-a.lab.local with len 18 
                            writing 95 bytes
                            
                            Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/local/captiveportal/radius_authentication.inc:48) in /usr/local/captiveportal/index.php on line 335 
                            radius-port: 1813
                            radius-host: 10.10.2.25
                            username: blahblah
                            
                            username is blahblah with len 8 nasHostname is portal-a.lab.local with len 18 
                            writing 113 bytes
                            [/code]
                            
                            The errors on the RADIUS server for a >16 char passphrase are as i'd expect for an incorrect passphrase.  
                            
                            

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                              billm
                              last edited by

                              @buraglio:

                              No real debug info from the Encrypt() function.  I can dig a little deeper.  I can also give you access to the box if you'd like.

                              It'd be helpful to be able to point at a radius server with an account that has a 17 (or larger) character password.  I've got no way of testing that I'm following the RFC correctly - 16 and under still work with the new code I assume?

                              –Bill

                              pfSense core developer
                              blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                              twitter - billmarquette

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                                buraglio
                                last edited by

                                It authenticates with the new code with a RADIUS box with >=16 passwords but the redirection after fails with some php errors.  I assume that is a cosmetic fix and not critical.  I can work on getting a radius box up probably tomorrow if that'd be helpful.

                                https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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                                  billm
                                  last edited by

                                  @buraglio:

                                  It authenticates with the new code with a RADIUS box with >=16 passwords but the redirection after fails with some php errors.  I assume that is a cosmetic fix and not critical.  I can work on getting a radius box up probably tomorrow if that'd be helpful.

                                  So it now authenticates accounts with > 16 char passwords?  And authenticates accounts with < 16 char passwords?  Only a PHP error to cleanup?  Good news.  Maybe the PHP error is coming from the $debug define.

                                  –Bill

                                  pfSense core developer
                                  blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                                  twitter - billmarquette

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                                    buraglio
                                    last edited by

                                    @billm:

                                    @buraglio:

                                    It authenticates with the new code with a RADIUS box with >=16 passwords but the redirection after fails with some php errors.  I assume that is a cosmetic fix and not critical.  I can work on getting a radius box up probably tomorrow if that'd be helpful.

                                    So it now authenticates accounts with > 16 char passwords?  And authenticates accounts with < 16 char passwords?  Only a PHP error to cleanup?  Good news.  Maybe the PHP error is coming from the $debug define.

                                    –Bill

                                    Actually it only authenticates 16 char or below passwords.  I mistyped.  Sorry.

                                    https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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                                      buraglio
                                      last edited by

                                      Has anyone else noticed this behavior?  Would it be beneficial for me to set up a RADIUS box and give you access to test against?

                                      https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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                                        sullrich
                                        last edited by

                                        @buraglio:

                                        Has anyone else noticed this behavior?  Would it be beneficial for me to set up a RADIUS box and give you access to test against?

                                        Yes, please do.  Bill does not have access to a tesitng environment for this.

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                                          billm
                                          last edited by

                                          @buraglio:

                                          Has anyone else noticed this behavior?  Would it be beneficial for me to set up a RADIUS box and give you access to test against?

                                          If you can provide me a radius target I can test this myself.

                                          –Bill

                                          pfSense core developer
                                          blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                                          twitter - billmarquette

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                                            buraglio
                                            last edited by

                                            I'll work on this this afternoon and post when it's done.

                                            https://www.forwardingplane.net/

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