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    Bellsouth/AT&T PPPoE broken

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    • M
      megalodon
      last edited by

      @ptaylor:

      If I've read the code correctly, that should wait until the last attempt before it would normally fail, at which time it would insert the IP Address field in the Configuration Request, regardless of if it has been previously rejected.  This would be less likely to break MPD, if this code is used for other purposes.  (I believe FSM_MAXNAK is a valid variable here, but as I indicated above, my C is rusty.)

      I'm not sure this is the right approach… it should actually be putting the IP in the first request after the first NAK.  This is what XP's PPPoE client does:

      http://attenuated.org/~greg/mpd/xp_working.txt

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        ptaylor
        last edited by

        @megalodon:

        I'm not sure this is the right approach… it should actually be putting the IP in the first request after the first NAK.  This is what XP's PPPoE client does:

        http://attenuated.org/~greg/mpd/xp_working.txt

        I'm not sure it is the right approach either, but thought that it would be less likely to cause issues if this code is used for some purpose other than what we are doing with it here.  I believe that MPD can run in a server mode as well, and perhaps for other purposes.  I do not know if Monowall or pfSense are taking advantage of any of those features, though.

        Your previous post indicates the issue is with the way MPD determines what is rejected.  I think you are spot-on here, as that code segment you posted is the what I homed in on as well.  Fixing the underlying cause would be the best option, but that would be best handled by someone intimately familiar with the MPD code, as I don't think it would be trivial.  If someone can verify that MPD's only use in pfSense is as a PPPoE client, then the suggestion to simply take the "if" statement out would probably take care of everything in short order.

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          sullrich
          last edited by

          Try editing config.xml and in the pppoe section add:

          <dnsnosec>IE: from /etc/inc/interfaces.inc:

          if (!isset($config['pppoe']['dnsnosec'])) {
          $mpdconf .= << <eod<br>set ipcp enable req-sec-dns

          EOD;</eod<br></dnsnosec>

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            ptaylor
            last edited by

            Scott, you rock!  This minor config change has me up and running!

            Perhaps this can be put in as a webGui option since this is becoming a common issue.

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              megalodon
              last edited by

              Excellent!  That got me up and running as well.  Thanks for finding that.

              I went ahead and submitted a bug ticket to the MPD project so that they are at least aware of the problem:
              http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1861740&group_id=14145&atid=114145

              I also whipped up a patch to add an option to the webgui.  This patch is against m0n0wall 1.3b7.  It should be fairly easy to adapt to pfsense.  I'm going to post this to the monowall development mailing list.  Hopefully it'll get included in the next release:

              --- interfaces_wan.php.orig     2008-01-01 13:04:15.000000000 -0500
              +++ interfaces_wan.php  2008-01-01 13:35:52.000000000 -0500
              @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
               $pconfig['username'] = $config['pppoe']['username'];
               $pconfig['password'] = $config['pppoe']['password'];
               $pconfig['provider'] = $config['pppoe']['provider'];
              +$pconfig['pppoe_dnsnosec'] = isset($config['pppoe']['dnsnosec']);
               $pconfig['pppoe_dialondemand'] = isset($config['pppoe']['ondemand']);
               $pconfig['pppoe_idletimeout'] = $config['pppoe']['timeout'];
              
              @@ -179,6 +180,7 @@
                              unset($config['pppoe']['username']);
                              unset($config['pppoe']['password']);
                              unset($config['pppoe']['provider']);
              +               unset($config['pppoe']['dnsnosec']);
                              unset($config['pppoe']['ondemand']);
                              unset($config['pppoe']['timeout']);
                              unset($config['pptp']['username']);
              @@ -208,6 +210,7 @@
                                      $config['pppoe']['username'] = $_POST['username'];
                                      $config['pppoe']['password'] = $_POST['password'];
                                      $config['pppoe']['provider'] = $_POST['provider'];
              +                       $config['pppoe']['dnsnosec'] = $_POST['pppoe_dnsnosec'] ? true : false;
                                      $config['pppoe']['ondemand'] = $_POST['pppoe_dialondemand'] ? true : false;
                                      $config['pppoe']['timeout'] = $_POST['pppoe_idletimeout'];
                              } else if ($_POST['type'] == "PPTP") {
              @@ -274,6 +277,7 @@
                                      document.iform.username.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.password.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.provider.disabled = 1;
              +                       document.iform.pppoe_dnsnosec.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_idletimeout.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.ipaddr.disabled = 0;
              @@ -297,6 +301,7 @@
                                      document.iform.username.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.password.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.provider.disabled = 1;
              +                       document.iform.pppoe_dnsnosec.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_idletimeout.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.ipaddr.disabled = 1;
              @@ -320,6 +325,7 @@
                                      document.iform.username.disabled = 0;
                                      document.iform.password.disabled = 0;
                                      document.iform.provider.disabled = 0;
              +                       document.iform.pppoe_dnsnosec.disabled = 0;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.disabled = 0;
                                      if (document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.checked || enable_change) {
                                              document.iform.pppoe_idletimeout.disabled = 0;
              @@ -347,6 +353,7 @@
                                      document.iform.username.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.password.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.provider.disabled = 1;
              +                       document.iform.pppoe_dnsnosec.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_idletimeout.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.ipaddr.disabled = 1;
              @@ -374,6 +381,7 @@
                                      document.iform.username.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.password.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.provider.disabled = 1;
              +                       document.iform.pppoe_dnsnosec.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_dialondemand.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.pppoe_idletimeout.disabled = 1;
                                      document.iform.ipaddr.disabled = 1;
              @@ -501,6 +509,13 @@
              
               Hint: this field can usually be left
                                   empty
              
              +                
              +                  Secondary DNS
              +                   >
              +                    **Disable secondary DNS request**
              
              +                    This option disables the request for a secondary DNS server in the PPPoE connection.  Workaround for some BellSouth/AT&T DSL users.
              +                  
              +                
              
                                 Dial on demand
                                  onClick="enable_change(false)" >
              
              
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                Ryan
                last edited by

                Scott Rocks.  Thanks a bunch.  I am honored to be in a forum with such genious.  You are da bomb.  Oh and if you can't tell the fix works great for me.

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                  sullrich
                  last edited by

                  Great, glad it worked out.  We are now exploring what to do about this.  I almost half inclined to ship with this option on by default and if someone needs multiple dns servers they can uncomment this.

                  Thoughts?

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                    ptaylor
                    last edited by

                    For now, I think having this option enabled by default would probably be fine.

                    In my mind, though, the best long term fix would be for the MPD dev's fix this little bug.

                    I've never heard of an ISP not giving you more than one DNS server before, which is probably why this problem has remained hidden until now.

                    As a side note, my employer uses BellSouth for their Internet service, and since I work in the network department there, I've been involved with issues courtesy of their DNS servers on numerous occasions.  Perhaps they felt that only handing out a single DNS server (splitting up who gets handed which server) would half the traffic to their servers, possibly cutting down on the problems.  This seems like a short-sited fix though, since that introduces more single points of failure for their customers.

                    If fixing their DNS issues was the goal of this change, I'd think a better answer would be to get a couple of F5 load balancers and a few more DNS servers.  Those F5's aren't cheap, though…  Hey - They could use pfSense instead!  :)

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                      brbubba
                      last edited by

                      Thanks so much for the help. This one hit me right after new years. Damn Bell South.

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                        ptaylor
                        last edited by

                        This issue has been fixed in MPD 5 and Manuel has back-ported the fix to MPD 3.18.  He has a pre-release version that has been verified to work (without the dnsnosec option).

                        So, this issue sounds like it will be all taken care of very soon.

                        Paul

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                          sullrich
                          last edited by

                          I've just commited a new mpd which contains his changes.  Please check the snapshot server in about an hour or two from now.

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